And you will have seen over the last few weeks, even netflix thinking they mightjust move into advertising. yes, they ve they ve hinted that s coming in the next year or two, haven t they? now, listening to you, you ve got two clear goals, channel 4 s cultural impact and running a successful business. one final question on the issue of ip, of intellectual property, when you have shows like the circle or top boy, which is a drama based in london, starting on channel 4, arguably incubating on channel 4 and then ending up on netflix, doesn t that harm both of your goals? i think it depends what your goal is. if your goal is cultural impact and making money does not losing a show that you help develop. our goal is not making money, right? our goal is earning and making money in order to fund our business to make it sustainable. it s not a profit driven organisation at this time. let s see what happens by 202a. so look, our goal a lot of the time is to be a very big r&d factory for the uk c
Acknowledging the fact that you re an older organisation. he put out a commissioning document in april titled here comes trouble. he says he wants to give a voice to the unheard, say the unsayable and show the unseen. but then i m looking through today s channel 4 schedule and there s frasier, undercover boss usa, couples come dine with me, countdown, a place in the sun, great house giveaway, sun, sea and selling houses. that doesn t feel like it s a network which is saying the unsayable. that s mostly the daytime schedule, as you well know. but there s also a load of things that have been on in the past couple of weeks, like the davina show that i mentioned, derry girls, hellraisers, documentaries that we ve had on, we ve got coming up, something big on elon musk. we ve got troy deeney on how important it is that black history is taught in schools in the uk. we ve got ghislaine maxwell documentary coming up. there s a whole range of things. there s also the huge piece we did about kyl
Your chief content officer said you ve gone from being the enfant terrible to a troublesome uncle, acknowledging the fact that you re an older organisation. he put out a commissioning document in april titled here comes trouble. he says he wants to give a voice to the unheard, say the unsayable and show the unseen. but then i m looking through today s channel 4 schedule and there s frasier, undercover boss usa, couples come dine with me, countdown, a place in the sun, great house giveaway, sun, sea and selling houses. that doesn t feel like it s a network which is saying the unsayable. that s mostly the daytime schedule, as you well know. but there s also a load of things that have been on in the past couple of weeks, like the davina show that i mentioned, derry girls, hellraisers, documentaries that we ve had on, we ve got coming up, something big on elon musk. we ve got troy deeney on how important it is that black history is taught in schools in the uk. we ve got ghislaine maxwell d
It s a network which is saying the unsayable. that s mostly the daytime schedule, as you well know. but there s also a load of things that have been on in the past couple of weeks, like the davina show that i mentioned, derry girls, hellraisers, documentaries that we ve had on, we ve got coming up, something big on elon musk. we ve got troy deeney on how important it is that black history is taught in schools in the uk. we ve got ghislaine maxwell documentary coming up. there s a whole range of things. there s also the huge piece we did about kyle and kind of death on daytime. there s a set of things we do continuously. whilst fraiser is a magical programme in the mornings. i m not disputing fraiser s might. and that s our point of competition in the mornings because there s other things that people watch traditionally and they also want an escape from reality. but i wonder if you re grappling with a broader issue, which is that when channel 4 started, the things that it represented we
Couples come dine with me, countdown, a place in the sun, great house giveaway, sun, sea and selling houses. that doesn t feel like it s a network which is saying the unsayable. that s mostly the daytime schedule, as you well know. but there s also a load of things that have been on in the past couple of weeks, like the davina show that i mentioned, derry girls, hellraisers, documentaries that we ve had on, we ve got coming up, something big on elon musk. we ve got troy deeney on how important it is that black history is taught in schools in the uk. we ve got ghislaine maxwell documentary coming up. there s a whole range of things. there s also the huge piece we did about kyle and kind of death on daytime. there s a set of things we do continuously. whilst fraiser is a magical programme in the mornings. i m not disputing fraiser s might. and that s our point of competition in the mornings because there s other things that people watch traditionally and they also want an escape from rea