deceased. we are not going to try to speculate at the moment any comparison between the number that we believe were on the train as compared to where everyone else is at this moment. let us do our investigation. we have train cars that are completely overturned. on their side. ripped apart. it is a devastating scene down there. we walked the entire length of the train area and the engine completely separated from the rest of the train and one of the cars is perpendicular to the rest of the darcars. and the manifest indicated how many people were on this train? the estimate at the moment is a total of 243 individuals, five of whom we believe are amtrak employees. you know that s your conductor, an engineer woesh personnel, and then the rest we believe, are passengers. that s a preliminary estimate until we get an actual manifest