times sounded angry on that live stream that began this morning for services at the synagogue and abruptly came to an end at about 2:00 p.m. witnesses listen to the live we have seen we heard a muffled sounds it s hard to be clear what s being said. clearly it s continues to be an ongoing situation there in texas, eric. eric: the hostage negotiating team still on the phone, brian thank you. arthel: are white house producer, pat moore by the way telling us the white house is closely monitoring the situation. we refer any questions to the fbi and law enforcement for the time being. so that is just in from her white house and producer pat joining us now is danny colson he s a former f vi and hoss q rescue team. you have done this countless times. would it be possible that
central time. reports that he was not ranting about religion is on but also using obscenities at one point but then of course it said he does not want to hurt anyone and referenced his sister and his children. ted welner s former ted coming up or sooner four hours. and his danny said that theoretically could be a good sign for the ideas to keep him talking, keep him engaged, try to lower and reduce the emotions set this man off. especially if it is a religious component. danny i was listening to danny colson he is right on target here. you have got experienced hostage negotiating teams on the scene there. you have a swat team on the scene. but what you do not have at this time is an active shooter. if there was an active shooter, quite naturally they would have to go in.
but i ve got to tell you, what i find important really important is that for the police to get in touch with the family members he spoke about. obviously is concerned about his children, his concern about his family perhaps may want the steps the police will take is have them speak to him and try to get him to calm down. he is feeding that information out, in my view, to extend this thing and keep going. again these are indicators he doesn t want to harm anybody. he s trying to get a message out and that the end of the day will find out the message is. i am believing, based on what i m hearing as you are he does not want to die. he does not to hurt anybody but he wants to send a clear message regarding the situation he is in as he sees it. danny was on at this earlier, ted williams on earlier, we are all sing the same thing as we approach the fourth hour of this hostage situation there.