Alleged coconspirators in that indictment. Charles burnham, defense attorney for coconspirator number 2 from the recent indictment. This is a person who has been confirmed and identified as john eastman, the lawyer, who advised donald trump, who spoke at the January 6th Rally there next to rudy giuliani, and was a key architect of much of what the president and his aides were trying to push heading into the january 6th certification. Charles, first of all, thank you very much for making the time and joining me tonight. Thank you for having me. Absolutely. We put aside some time for this. I want to start with a couple of quick things and then get into the case. But first and foremost, donald trump lost the 2020 election. You accept that fact . Well, look. There is a large portion of the country that has issues with the 2020 election. There are still discussion about things that went on. A large portion of the country believes in goats or horoscopes. Im asking do you accept the results o
or the evidence. protective orders are often used in criminal cases. they re subject to negotiation between the parties and ultimately the decision will come down through the judge, deciding what terms the protective order should have. it s not at all unusual for there to be a protective order, particularly in a high-profile case such as this one. i appreciate the way you split the issues. as you say, they re trying to do a lot in that paragraph. before i let you go, did you want to weigh in on whether a defendant like mr. trump or others would be better served by the soccer coach s advice, prefer not to speak, or just to let it rip? do you have any counsel there? so i think from a pure criminal defense perspective it s generally not a good idea for the defendant to be speaking, an indicted defendant to speak publicly or otherwise about his case. trump, though, is trying to do two different things here. one is he s trying to talk about his case but what he s really trying to do is