what she also said is that washington is useless to the people in arizona, in new mexico, in texas, in california. look, the rhetoric is bill: what would you say to her? i would say that the rhetoric is overheated. i m not certain of the 87 number, but i do think there has been a change in the nature of illegal crossings. look, ten years ago, 15 years ago, you could go buy a coyote service to get you across the border for $100, $200, it s now costing $2500, it s costing more because it s tougher to get across the border. the federal government has doubled the size of the border, tripled its budget, put a lot of technology and a lot of resores on the border, including the wall. bill: she says that s not enough, obviously. it obviously isn t. in fact i am concerned that the obama administration has slowed up the construction of the wall and has been apparently, cood to go some people i m talking to in texas, reluctant to expand a program called 287g, this is a program signed in