and does the right thing? now, what i find it is time and again, people say they want responsibility and they can defend it when it is easy but when it gets difficult, and we might actually learn something and change, they give in and coerce instead. and that is what i am really opposed to. let s really make progress here. i think some people think there is a curiosity that there are people on the conservatives, usually the right of the conservative party, that talk a lot about freedom but, for example, and you raised it, will then give the police huge new powers to limit the power of protest, saying that protests that are too noisy or too inconvenient are not legitimate democratic expressions of opinion. is there a danger that for conservatives of your type, that you seem interested in one type of freedom and not another type of freedom ? well, that sort of thing is exactly absolutely the stuff of political debate. i have taken an extremely strident view on covid status certifications
to limit the power of protest, saying that protests that are too noisy or too inconvenient are not legitimate democratic expressions of opinion. is there a danger that for conservatives of your type, that you seem interested in one type of freedom and not another type of freedom? well, that sort of thing is exactly absolutely the stuff of political debate. you know, i have taken an extremely strident view on covid status certifications and vaccine passports, but i am in favour of voter id. but i do consider, and we get into it, if you like, that they are categorically different circumstances. but, of course, people equate them and then accuse me of not being principled, and on the debate goes. but on protest in particular, when you are talking about people who are willing to disrupt our society by deliberately getting people arrested to flood the courts and bring them to a standstill, you do actually have to stop that. we ve got a duty to have the rule of law. i mean, iam not some kind
instead, and that s what i am really opposed to. let s really make progress here. i think some people think there is a curiosity that there are people on the conservatives usually the right of the conservative party talk a lot about freedom but, for example and you raised it will then give the police huge new powers to limit the power of protest, saying that protests that are too noisy or too inconvenient are not legitimate democratic expressions of opinion. is there a danger that for conservatives of your type, that you seem interested in one type of freedom and not another type of freedom? well, that sort of thing is exactly absolutely the stuff of political debate. you know, i have taken an extremely strident view on covid status certifications and vaccine passports, but i am in favour of voter id.