campaigning. the anti-vax crowd might be a danger. falling back on the virus will get a vote, and this will dictate what happens going forward. yep. and as we know, it does feel as if there s a pattern, and if this seasonal pattern continues, what happens when the summer surge hurts and what happens to our political debate about covid if, indeed, a summer surge comes like the last two? kelly o donnell, mark caputo, thanks for getting us started on this mix of covid and the midterms. joining me is colorado s governor, one of the most prominent and few democrats to declare the end to the pandemic emergency. governor, we ve talked about this before. it seemed extraordinarily appropriate to have you on today given that the party does seem divided on this question. let me play something you said yesterday to my friend kara swisher, and i want to ask you about it on the other side. here it is. the emergency phase early on, lack of supplies, lack of vent lay or thes, we re past that. now