than they were during the cuban missile crisis, at the height of the cold war. nato, in essence, is already engaged in a war with russia through a proxy and designing that proxy. war means war. war means war. lieutenant general ben hodges is the former commander of the us army in europe, he is now the pershing chair in strategic studies at the centre for european policy analysis welcome back to the programme. there have been some fairly bullish predictions given in recent days as to what ukraine can achieve here. we ve got a more sober assessment today from the chair of the joint chiefs who said that time is not on the ukrainian side. what did he mean by that? the ukrainian side. what did he mean b that? ~ 4 the ukrainian side. what did he mean b that? ~ ~ ., ., by that? well, i think that what the aeneral is by that? well, i think that what the general is talking by that? well, i think that what the general is talking about by that? well, i think that what the general is talking