the 25-year-old in their pickup truck and he said that he ran around the truck and attacked him and he says that s why he was forced to shoot and kill the 25-year-old. he grabbed the shotgun and i believe i was stuck. what did you do? i shot. it s obvious that he was attacking me, that if he would have got the shotgun from me, then it was, a life or death situation. now, neil, under cross-examination, the prosecution poked at mcmichael s self-defense claims, that arbery never spoke a word to him and never presented himself as a threat as he ran for five minutes away from the mcmichaels and william roddy bryan who later joined the chase in his pickup truck. and demonstrated that he didn t pull out a gun. that s correctments he hasn t said one word to you. he has not. not threatened you in any way verbally or physically.