Credibility and accountability and will tip to do so. Do you have another question. Im going to make a quick note on that. And see if dan agrees. Afghanistan is going from a fairly corrupt patronage system to a system which will be professional, transparent and noncorrupt. That is a long hard road to travel. And if president ghani moves too fast he will break his politics. And he will cause so many groups to be disgruntled with him and organize against him. So we have to be patient and recognize that this kind of transition is very difficult. Hes got to be on that road he has to be convincing of the afghan people, but we have to give him a little slack. Because if he moves too fast and breaks his politics and we lose the government, then we lose the possibility of moving to a professional, transparent and nonrupt system and go back to the old afghanistan and that is not good for anybody. Sorry. And i absolutely concur with that. And i guess finally the last question on reconciliation a
Customers a day. Host you will have to leave it there. We appreciate your time. We will now bring you to the Senate Homeland security and Government Affairs committee. They are looking at the bureau of oversight. And the challenges facing the federal prison system. You can see the chairman, ron johnson, who will be gathering there shortly. Senator johnson good morning. This hearing will come to order. I am looking forward to this. I was telling the witnesses, i have read all of the testimony, and i generally do that to the best of my ability, sometimes the testimony can be a little dry and will put me to sleep when im reading later at night. In this case, not whatsoever. The testimony was fascinating partly because i am new to the issue. I will keep my Opening Statement brief. I know senator booker wants to make an Opening Statement and he is been involved longer than i have. Being a business guy i am dated driven data driven. The data on this with a high level incarceration rates are
One as well. Mr. Dillard i feel like the work is on the offenders themselves. When i met a lifer who rated difference in my life, throughout my prison sentence i realized how the older inmates tried to encourage the younger ones. I still feel like you cannot leave formerly incarcerated citizens out of the equation. Mr. Ofer i will give two quick examples. There are states that have reduced the risk of solitary confinement without the risk to staff and to inmates. In colorado, 2011 placed 7 of its incarcerated population in solitary confinement. In 2011, colorado place solitary confinement at 7 . Today, its about 1 . We have seen a dramatic decrease in the use of solitary by banning the use of solitary against people with Mental Illness. The second example is bail reform. What weve done in new jersey and what other states are looking at we had 10,000 people sit in jail awaiting their trial because they cannot afford a few thousand dollars in bail. We have completely revamped that system
Mr. Dillard thank you for your observation. Trauma informed care is truly something that is needed if we are going to be preventive. I can use myself as an example of someone who had traumas at the age of 1213 years old. When i was diagnosed, i had been severely depressed most of my life. One reason i self medicated was Illegal Drugs had i been diagnosed, maybe i could have been given legal drugs and avoided the criminal Justice System. The fact is, we never look at the cause, we just look at the effect. Many, many, many of these women and men who ive encountered have tremendous traumas. We are working as a Pure Organization to help them work through that. To avoid Walking Around as hurting people because we know hurt people hurt people. If we do not address those early on, further down the road after recidivism, we are still going to be paying a much higher cost. Mr. Ofer i will give a perspective informed by the fact that i spend a lot of my time in newark, new jersey. A city that is
Man cannot do it all, his staff needs to be on board, is inspirational. I want to make a note on some of the senator carper i would like to listen to you for the rest of the morning, but i would like for you to hold it right there then we will come back to you in the second round. One of the things that attracted to me to a program was the guy who developed that and implemented it in delaware was from ohio state. It came out of columbus, ohio. It worked pretty well. Mr. Dillard, same question. One great example. Piper has given us one, give us one as well. Mr. Dillard i feel like the work is on the offenders themselves. When i met a lifer who rated difference in my life, throughout my prison sentence i realized how the older inmates tried to encourage the younger ones. I still feel like you cannot leave formerly incarcerated citizens out of the equation. Mr. Ofer i will give two quick examples. There are states that have reduced the risk of solitary confinement without the risk to staf