and now we are going to parse between is a being a vegetable, is a grain of vegetable, is we of vegetable comments corn vegetable. i don t think that s misleading to the consumer. what they are conveying is that you are not getting a meat or meat byproduct and you are vision or vegetarian this will be part of your diet. that s all they are saying. i don t think it s anything further than that will be considered misleading or even criminal or even civil violation. shannon: 15 seconds for closing argument. you bet. the word veggie signifies veggie. if that word wasn t on there, then you are right. there is no need to look any further. but without word veggie, shannon, nobody is going to be looking at the ingredients. that s what s deceptive about this. shannon: i would know that tonight unlike when we have debates over cookies and ice cream and everything else, there were no props.