Squeaky clean. There were complaints. Meredith vieira says he kept sex toys in his office. Hoda and savanna knew about thi this. And at msnbc, they said it was kind of a open secret. I know thats been a band phrase. Some of it was consensual but a lot of it was not. A lot of it was humiliating, degrading, harassment, borderline sexual assault. It looks like they have a problem because when you combine them spiking the Ronan Farrow Weinstein peace with them spiking the Juanita Broaddrick bill clinton peace and protecting matt lauer for all these years. And doesnt good for them and they made a half A Billion Dollars in profits every year and the ratings are great. People who were playing by the rules that got them where they were doing with the rules say this is a huge error. Dana what to think about the ronan farrow piece . Nbctoday show fixture and have a Harvey Weinstein story. Nbc said take it somewhere else. Its not a story want to do. It comes out in the new yorker and thats the sp
he did, made his retirement, or as you say his resignation, made public. he was asked about whether or not the books in congress should be open to the public. let s take a listen. i think there should be a complete disclosure and revealing to all of the citizens of the country of what your federal legislators, what your federal legislators are doing or not doing. harris: that s about the people who have settled with women in congress and it s about the money that you were just talking about, chris. there s $27,000 that congressman conyers is said to have paid at least one woman for basically keeping her mouth shut. and then the $84,000 in the other case that you were talking about, the republican lawmaker. yeah. conyers case, they did a dipsy do on this. they didn t even run it through
franken, there s evidence to substantiate these claims that it can be independently corroborated. dana: do you think conyers will resign by tomorrow? juan: conyers is in the hospital. as kimberly said, this is an 88-year-old man under tremendous stress. i think you have to stop for a second. we don t often do this but be sympathetic for a second. the poor guy s whole life has crumbled here because he is no longer going to be known as the founder of the black caucus or the longest-serving member or a terrific representative of southeast michigan. he s going to be known as the guy who got caught up in this. the real crime in the conyers case is that he used public funds to pay off this woman as hush money. that s the sin here. brian: would you say we should give tribute to harvey weinstein for doing some great movies. he s been doing this for 50 years. if it turns out, the v shape.
it is all becoming a blur? is it muddying the waters about who did what? i do not know if i would say a blur but i would think it depends on how you think of that? i think in terms of the amount of information being thrown at a reader, maybe there is a lot to process and digest. i think every day i m trying to keep it up with it. and we do this for a living! but there are distinctions to be made at the level of conduct or harassment compared to people who have been accused of sexual assault or rape. i think the difference can be seen usually in reporting. i think the reporters job is to accurately portray where this falls and whether it is child molesting work a rape accusation or something else. it does not mean it should be covered simply because there are others and other distinctions to be made in the conyers case. i think it is more of an allegation now correct me if i m wrong, he used taxpayer dollars. to buy off or
aren t there? we ve now gone from discussing sexual harassment in some cases, unwanted sexual advances that amount to sexual assault, to now talking about i think kind of bad behavior overall. what do you make of this? i mean it s clear there is a cultural issue on capitol hill. even in the conyers case. it s clearly conduct assuming this is true, was not becoming of a member of congress, let alone a member of congress who has been there for decades who is the longest serving member in the house, same is true of representative joe barton, he s been there for 17 terms in congress. he was texting these women during congressional hearings and from the house floor. when he s supposed to be doing the work of his constituents. clearly conduct that is not becoming of a congressman. so clearly a big cultural issue.