pilots, the housekeeper, fbi agents, et cetera. why do i say that? i say that because while no system is infallible, you expect the jury in a court, remember it takes all 12, to delve in and dig team and determine what is factually accurate. the process provides for the judge really to be the person who really administers the law, gives legal instructions, makes legal rulingi. when it comes down to a factual determination, the jury assesses the facts. you want jurors to be locked in with regard to what were the inconsistencies, the timeline, what really happened here. they spoke with their verdict. that verdict indicated of five or six counts, miss maxwell was indeed guilty of not only conspireing, engaging with another but enabling and
it and spoke a volume of what they had sos to say. yeah. some of them described the relationships she tried to build with them, taking them shopping, to the movies, building this relationship of trust while grooming them. do you think count six is one of the most important ones, because it does carry a max of 40 years. yeah. it s very significant, and here s why. remember what this jury was doing. what they were doing in listening to these four girls, right, jane, kate, and annie farmer, carolyn. what they were doing is determining whether or not this was really a coordinated effort between miss maxwell and mr. epstein really to bring him these women to gain, as you noted there, kaitlan, trust through this grooming process, by taking them shopping, by normalizing this, as the prosecution said, this relationship which is far from normal. even as it relates to count six
some viruses do this kind of thing. and now there s don ts. so it was good news to us to see a virus, you know, becoming somewhat milder. so given this was only 13 people in this study, do you plan to try to do it on a bigger scale, or what have you talked about with other scientists about similar studies to this? so certainly, you know, one study is not enough. and i can guarantee that there will be a lot of other studies in the same area, which will go over the same kind of approach or slightly different approaches. and see if our results are correct. we will await those results and hope that the trajectory and the experience you re having in south africa reflects what we can expect here in the united states. alex sigal, thank you very much. . thank you. up neck, a jury convicted
vowing to appeal her sex trafficking conviction. the federal jury in manhattan wednesday found ghislaine maxwell guilty of conspireing with epstein to recruit, froome, and sexually abuse minors for at least a decade. cnn s sonia joins us now to explain this and more. sonia. yeah. ghislaine maxwell could face 65 years in prison for these crimes, which the federal prosecutor s office called some of the worst crimes imaginable. yesterday when that verdict came down, so many survivors of this abuse by epstein and ghislaine maxwell spoke out saying they were relieved, they were thankful to this jury for convicting her of five of the six counts. sup, jeffrey epstein died by suicide just weeks after he had been arrested in 2019 for sex trafficking charges himself. so these survivors were dealt
the defense was a tagging the motivation. this was about money they got. so i think that jury was making an assessment as to whether they could believe, they could credit and the testimony of these young women, right. and in looking at that, what did they say to their boyfriends. let s look at this expert. remember they also, john, wanted read back of that defense expert on faulty memories. what did the pilot say? what were they doing? so i think they really dug deep. they did that. and just as a very brief point, remember what the counts were. the counts related to the issues with respect to conspiracy. did she conspire with mr. maxwell to get the young with em to go, to get the girls to go and otherwise be abused by him? did she facility that. did she provide the conditions for bringing them to florida, bringing them to new york, to santa fe. so i think it s a process. and, look, nothing is perfect of course, but i think they did their job, got to the bottom of