important to understand here is there s a direct line of what we traditionally think of as the most important dangerous aspects of a cult and what s going on with the mass radicalization today in society. you can draw that line between the cult a consult leader and attributions of a cult leader and attributes of an authoritarian leadership like donald trump. also you can draw a line between the tactics, and that s the most important thing, the tactics that are being used to take advantage of people s vulnerabilities and how they hold him there is the same and the exit strategy is also the same. is what you see currently with trump it s so hard to talk about this honestly, diane. we re talking about american neighbors. do you think some of your neighbors in this country are basically been sucked into a cult, a political cult? well, in short, yes.