celebrating, abortion rights advocates, devastated. the question now where does the fight go next? to the white house. you re looking at it live. to congress. to state houses across the country. so over the next 60 minutes, we ll tick you live to those key places where decisions are happening. we ll take you outside the supreme court where you just saw some of those demonstrations and we re seeing protests all across the country. these are some of those. in st. louis, chicago. just ahead, we ll speak to the governor of one state where abortion rights could soon disappear. governor whitmer will join us live. we re in washington on an extraordinary friday along with our nbc news team. julia, you re there where demonstrations have been happening. tell us what it s like. hallie, if you want to know just how divided our country is, look no further than the crowd behind me. we ve seen abortion rights activists face off today, get in each other s faces. bull horns. you name it. ev
that unspecified witnesses from the trump organization who have testified before the house intelligence committee may have a problem legally in terms of potential liability for lying to congress. also, congresswoman spear has started a bit of a fire storm over allegations she has now made concerning treasury secretary steven mnuchin and the possibility he may have had a financial conflict of interest when it came to his decision to lift sanctions on a russian oligarch named oleg deripaska and businesses associated with him. joining us now is jackie spear. congresswoman, thank you very hutch for being with us. you have been like the table of contents to our show this evening. thank you. let me ask you first to tell us what your concern is the possibility that the treasury secretary has a financial conflict of interest with the lifting of these sanctions? so steve mnuchin sold his interest in his rat pack hollywood studio to leonard
of karen mcdougal. but i think we to be fair to donald trump are overstating potentially the meaning of his statement. meaning, saying you talked to lawyers about a different case and whether or not it was strong or not is not the same thing as saying you understand what a violation would be in your particular case. because i would actually argue while it s the same type of case in terms of payments, it s not enough that someone said i once talked to a lawyer about a different case and therefore i ve blown my argument. i just don t think it was a credible argument to begin with. i was going to say how many white collar crimes can you get away with the defense being i didn t know it was the law, sorry. particularly when you have to certify it on your campaign finance disclosures as the head of the campaign. joining me now is congresswoman jackie spear. and she s out with a new article today where she asks bluntly did putin buy donald trump. let s start with a big picture
that actually purchased from donald trump during the height of the recession in which it was a $45 million increase in value, he never saw the property and yet made that kind of an accelerated and expensive payment to him. i think was all part of a deal that was concocted by putin. all right, we ll see if the investigation turns any of those stones. congresswoman spear thank you very much. and coming up today bob mueller debunking trump s claims about the lies of his former national security advisor michael flynn. plus new revelations about how jared kushner replaced cohen as trump s link to the national enquirer. and a real life mueller mystery. a secret witness trying to defy a subpoena with an entire court on lock down. we re going to talk to a reporter who was there at the
with about 50 employees. he knew precisely what was going on all the time. congresswoman, there s been two components to michael cohen s, if you will, cooperation here. you ve got hush money payments and the ami david pecker connection. you also have the connection to russia and the trump tower. take a listen to michael cohen talking about russia today. the special counsel did say you were doing your best to tell the truth about everything related to their investigation, everything related to russia. do you think president trump is telling the truth about that? no. how does this end for donald trump? that sort of gets into the whole investigation right now. i don t want to jeopardize any of their investigation. what more do you think we re going to learn from michael cohen about that issue, the russia connection to all of