truth, even if they have been incredibly loyal to him. anderson, it s and i m not the only one to say this. the republican party is a cult. i know a lot of people say that. but what does that mean? that means they are all beholden to donald trump. and the base of the party which is beholden to trump. and as a cult, you can t speak the truth. look at mike pence. look at all the supplicating he did to donald trump for four or five years. and then on january 6th, anderson, he does his constitutional duty and as far as the republican party base is concerned, he s done. yeah. jordan knows that. congresswoman love, the fact that congressman jordon could become chairman of the judiciary committee if republicans take the house this year, it is fascinating when you look at his performance during the benghazi hearings, he was prosecuting that very strongly, asking he
characterizations. they have had assistance from some who have crafted the legal strategy. congressman jordon also told me he has never divulged dpogs to the white house that he is not allowed to. an interesting development as the white house grapples with trying to understand what these allegations will that the president is facing in these closed-door testimonies where they are not allowed to have an attorney present. one of those testimonies this week was from army lieutenant colon vindman. there are new details emerging about what he was told to do whether he voiced concerns about the administration pressuring ukraine. what are you learning about that? that s right. lieu tenlt kroernl vin manned was on the call that the president had with the ukrainian official. he immediately registered his
but every one else saw as problemat problematic. each of these items is big enough on its own. taken together they expand our understanding of the decisions and actions at the heart of what just yesterday became a soon to be public impeachment proceedings. all that and the washington post moments ago reporting that a number of senate republicans are now considering acknowledge that there was, in fact, a quid pro quo. in short, wow. a lot to get to. cnn pamela brown starts us off. we want to start with your reporting on this information pipeline running from the secure room on the capitol to the white house. what are you learning? reporter: my league and i ha colleague and i have learned close allies are offering guidance to crafting the defense strategy. mark meadow and jim jordon have
jim jordon said he never divulged questions that shouldn t be divulged and hasn t answered questions that will get to the substance. some of these witnesses backs up aspects of the president s defense. these lawmakers have pointed out publicly but have been careful not the divulge too much. walking that fine line for them. john. you said they are the two members that have been in all the hearings. are they the only two helping out the white house like this or are there others? reporter: the white house isn t justdan there are two par of this out reach. there s the help it s seeking to shape the legal strategy with the white house counsel s office and then there s the communication strategy to coordinate message and we have learned the white house is increasingly reaching out to senators as it becomes more apparent that the impeachment
about classified information. i haven t seen any allegations that they revealing classified information. if you have the information in your head and go into a secure space in the white house and discuss it, that is okay. i think it s worth pointing out that i don t think it s a legal strategy that they are potentially giving the white house advice on. impeachment is not a legal proceeding. it s a political proceeding. they are getting information and they are helping probably with the political strategy that the white house is developing. it strikes me their response to this is very carefully worded. congressman meadows and jordon said they are abidesing by the rules as much as they can. that seems awfully careful. in noting they are not talking about anything in detail that hasn t been reported publicly. that indicates a consciousness of where the boundaries are here. they seem kind of worried about being exposed at doing