a combination of air strikes and counter artillery fire. this is the kind of thing, this kind of picture does not surprise me. i ve seen it before. we ve not only seen it recently especially in certain areas of the middle east where the construction is not that good it s not well support nd. but you could go back and sea pictures of world war ii. you could see pictures in england, germany and france and see these kind of pictures after major battles. it s unfoort nate but the good news is when you hear the citizens of the town saying we will rebuild, that s the important thing. it s a conflict of will. some people say they look at these pictures and they say, yeah isis is out but they re 25 miles or so from the city. people can t go back. there are no houses left over there. i guess a lot of people are asking was it worth it to basically destroy kobani in order to get isis out of there. look when we were talking last summer into the fall we