has been a great deal of discussion about how this whole wave of covid started in this country and the mistakes we might have made, how we could have done better. in talking to dr. collins yesterday, the issue came up about the pressure he was under, particularly the pressure to fire a certain doctor. i want you to respond to this. there were a lot of rumors flying around that maybe that was about to happen, and i think i did in several instances say i would not be willing to do that. he s probably the most respected, knowledgeable infectious disease expert in the world who is basically getting in hot water because he s speaking the truth to people who don t want to hear that. is that a reason to relieve him of his job? oh, no, absolutely not. that would have been the wrong thing to do. they would have had to fire me first. neil: the notion that he was asked to fire dr. anthony fauci, obviously, true he didn t do it, but what dud you make of that? did you make of that? number o
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