with lawrence o donnell. good evening lawrence. good evening, alex, i was listening to your coverage about the possibility of donald trump testifying to the january six committee, even after he gets a subpoena. and of course, he will fight it all the way. and we ll pretend though at the same time, through strategic legs, oh yeah, he s thinking about it, maybe he ll do it. like he did with the mueller investigation for so long. there is no chance he was ever going to testify. it s all a routine. it s all a hoax! don t believe it! i mean, the idea that he d been cooperative at the same time while he s throwing every bit of sand he can into the works is like, you know, come on, we know fully once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. we all know how the story ends. you know who s going to testify? his mascot, lindsey graham has been ordered by the federal appeals court to testify to the georgia grand jury that is investigating among other things lindsey graham s phone cal
about it, maybe he ll do it. like he did with the mueller investigation for so long. there is no chance he was ever going to testify. it s all a routine. it s all a hoax! don t believe it! i mean, the idea that he d been cooperative at the same time while he s throwing every bit of sand he can into the works is like, you know, come on, we know fully once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. we all know how the story ends. you know who s going to testify? his mascot, lindsey graham has been ordered by the federal appeals court to testify to the georgia grand jury that is investigating among other things lindsey graham s phone calls from the secretary of state about the presidential election along with donald trump s famous phone call. one of those striking things about the three judge panel 12 judges, appointed by donald trump. and of course, voted for by lindsey graham. the irony! the irony! the irony! lindsey grime has fought to do this with every out in his qu
The climate state. not as a government function but as something that was doled out to people like steve bannon and two other cronies like michael flynn. and it was done entirely on a personal basis. unfortunately for him, he decided he wanted a special master in is a real judge. it is going to take, we were in new york, it s going to take less than a new york minute for judge dearie to rule on these issues. they seem quite frivolous. it will be an interesting night when we discover whose name was in that clemency document that donald trump calls personal in this inventory of documents. harry lippman what did you get from reading the justice
Judge dearie to rule on these issues. they seem quite frivolous. it will be an interesting night when we discover whose name was in that clemency document that donald trump calls personal in this inventory of documents. harry, lippman what did you get from reading the justice department s reading of the disputes? since we re picking favorites, i would go six and seven with what donald trump says that a record is personal is somehow also an official record of the government. that is so clearly the null said. but there are two arguments here, and i agree with andrew that dairy should make quick work of them. then we will see what cannon does. but the 11th circuit, obviously, ought to be the backstop here. when is where he basically asserts, implicitly, that he can take a document that was government driven and related, wave his hand, and make it personal after his presidency. that should be a loser.
You found the most critical in the trove of documents that was taking from donald trump s home. and i m curious also the reaction to what is there from both inside and outside of trump world. that is really interesting list, but also a very vague list. among the items that were listed was a clemency document for roger stone, which was very interesting to see. boxes that are very vaguely labeled. binders, photos, obviously just lots of documents that they say were classified or top secret. there is not a lot that we can glean from this other than that we know it does appear that there is a lot of things that were taken out of trump s residence that shouldn t have been there in the first place. and, the presidents team has really tried to push that the former president had brought