hear certain catchphrases, they become fearful about what would happen if didn t have somebody like ron desantis in office. was problematic, it s not just the governor. it s our legislature. it s predominantly gop, and what they are doing, they re becoming many desantis s. which really should be a very apolitical office, right? it should be about protecting clarity ends. i wish i had time to do a whole show on doctor ladapo, who is clearly away every day that they talk medicine in medical school. we ll have to leave it there. rick wilson, fernand amandi, katie fang. a fascinating in slightly depressing discussion. thank you all. florida has become a testing ground for gop strategy, it s also plain to see that is working, as your panel just mentioned. governor desantis is more popular there than ever. how can democrats win would is increasingly becoming a red state? i ll ask one of the democratic challengers, or want to be challengers, nikki freed. stay with us.