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Transcripts for MSNBC Inside With Jen Psaki 20240604 16:23:00

Best legal experts, andrew weissmann and neal katyal, standing by, to try and help make sense of donald trump s extremely flawed defense. why prosecutors are asking the judge overseeing the case to step in after trump s post on social media? we are back after a quick break. (josh allen) is this your plan to watch the game today? (hero fan) uh, yea. i have to watch my neighbors nfl sunday ticket. (josh allen) it s not your best plan. but you know what is? myplan from verizon. switch now and they ll give you nfl sunday ticket from youtubetv, on them. (hero fan) this plan is amazing! (josh allen) another amazing plan, backing away from here very slowly. (fan #1) that was josh allen. (fan #2) mmhm. (vo) for a limited time get nfl sunday ticket from youtubetv on us. a $449 value. plus, get a free samsung galaxy s23. only on verizon. oh then you take me by the hand i feel better again oh i feel better now how are folks 60 and older having fun these days?

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Transcripts for MSNBC Inside With Jen Psaki 20240604 16:30:00

This did happen with roger stone in this very same courthouse, when he posted a photo of the district judge with crosshairs over her shoulder. and that led to severe restrictions about what you can post. just to be clear, any other defendant who did this, who is facing six counts of obstruction of justice, four counts in d.c., two counts in florida, i think it would be sent to jail, and would have to await trial in jail. so, you know, one of the things you ve been watching, and it s been interesting, lawyers, the judge, the trump team asked for a delay to respond to this protective order request. and the judge shot it down very quickly. it all seems very rapid. what can you make of that? and what does that tell us about what we should look ahead to in the weeks ahead? so, first, jen, i just wanted to thank you for the way you started this show, talking about how this trial was

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Transcripts for MSNBC Inside With Jen Psaki 20240604 16:31:00

Something that people are gonna read about in 100 years. and the reason for that is not because this trial it s really because this trial goes to the essence of what our legal system is about. trump s lawyers on tv today saying this is just a technical violation of the constitution, and stuff like that. on the contrary, this is as serious as it gets. this is about the ex president who tried to launch a coup and stop the counting of an election. so, i think this is what leading to judge chutkan and the timing of this case and what she has been doing over the weekend, i think she is signaling this reputation, she is and known on since judge, she s not gonna accept trump s decisions to try and delay the trial which is a standard tactic in case after case. this thing looks like it is heading toward a fast and speedy trial as it should be, given the gravity of the charges. but when trump goes and uses social media to do what he s been doing, after being warned by the judge, i think that

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Transcripts for MSNBC Inside With Jen Psaki 20240604 16:03:00

About a coordinated attempt to up and democracy itself by a sitting president. to quote from the indictment, it s about a concerted effort to, quote, create an intense national atmosphere of mistrust and anger, and road public faith in the administration of the election. here s the thing, donald trump hasn t learned a single lesson, doesn t seem that way at least. hasn t changed his behavior at all. that s probably why the judge is that his or brain explicitly warned him, to his face, that it s a crime to influence jurors or threat threaten anyone with information about his case. 24 hours after he was released on bond, he issued this message and all caps on truth social. saying, quote, if you go after me, i m coming after you. it did not go unnoticed. a few hours later, special counsel jack smith cited that threatening post in requests for protective order. basically prosecutors are raising concerns that trump s gonna publicly share the evidence that they give to his lawyers and use hi

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Transcripts for MSNBC Inside With Jen Psaki 20240604 16:51:00

Promoting the counterfeit slates of electors, conspiring to interfere with the federal proceeding on january 6th, the joint session of congress to count the electors. and then fundamentally, a conspiracy to violate everybody s civil rights by stealing the election away from the illegitimate electoral process under the constitution and the electoral count act of 1887, and substituting instead his counterfeit process that he cooked up with john eastman and the other people involved in the conspiracy. my bet is that trump s recent post on a surprise to you. they weren t necessarily a surprise to me either. but even in the days since the arraignment, he s put out a number of threatening tweets. he tweeted a threat at mike pence, like you to be a key witness. he is tweeted out threats that could be regarded, targeted at any range of people, justice department, government. should there be some sort of gag order imposed here? what do you think should be done? well, the judge definitely

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