Ukraine. that s watch. i think vladimir putin us to pay a high price if he does this. not just for him to pay the price but for other countries. i think the price should be his economy should be crippled and hurt badly. harris: emily? emily: right. i want to articulate a few other frightening things that experts were monitoring russian military movements have started to report. this is against the backdrop of, as charlie articulated, a lack of specificity with what our vital national interest will be against the landscape of our and vertebrae commander in chief. 21-55000 civilian casualties expected in the ukraine. 60% of the population was born after 1991. to me those are children. that s in addition to the 5-25000 ukrainian troops in the 4,000 russian troops. the window for diplomacy is closing. as we know, that hard ground breeding time is approaching