Democrats are making it clear they will not provide the life raft for him. Let republicans deal with their own problems. I mean, let them wallow in their pig sty of incompetence. But the Big Question Hanging Over The Hill right now, if not mccarthy, then who . I want to bring in ali vitali on capitol hill. Also with us, Washington Post national reporter, carol lehning. Former aid to speakers paul ryan and john boehner and msnbc political analyst, brendan buck. Were also joined by former republican congressman from florida, carlos. Ali, ive been away from you for all of a minute so i know either someones walked by you or youre getting texts. Tell us where everything stands right now. Certainly both. As we went off the air with you, congressman chip roy walked by. I asked if he thought any of these other hard liners could have their minds changed. He said well see. The reporting we did just a few minutes ago says a lot of these folk who said their going to vote against mccarthy probably
Knew we would eventually be, because they prop up was never with Kevin Mccarthy personally or Mike Johnson personally, it always had to do with the extreme Maga Right being able to hold the entire caucus hostage. The Bottom Line here is the dynamic, right . You have people in the Republican Caucus who are not dealmakers, theyre hostage takers. Actually, they want to blow up the bill. Often, people put and threats and say, if you dont do this, then will blow dings up. Some of these people actually want to blow things up. They want to bring the government to a halt. They want to destroy any possibility of there being bipartisan compromise on anything. Youve heard in the last couple days, republicans in the House And Senate saying they dont want a deal on immigration, because that could help joe biden. So, they dont want to legislate. They are there to troll, to be performative, and, Mike Johnson,
but again, we need to look to what majority leader chuck schumer says. because remember, the other thing that she does, she is holding us, in a sense, a lot of the democratic caucus hostage. she has already made the move to independent. if she feels like the caucus is not going to be receptive of her. then, she is strange enough, where she might make the full monte switch all the way to the republican side. remember, she started out as a green party member. then, democrat. now, independent. i would not put a pastor to go the other way as well. you need to keep that in mind in the calculus of the politics as well. so, marissa, what do you think is in this fall sinema? is she destined to become the next king? is that what she wants? to be seen as this independent kingmaker of sorts? i think so.
might be able to thread that needle. but again, we need to look to what majority leader chuck schumer says. because remember, the other thing that she does, she is holding us, in a sense, a lot of the democratic caucus hostage. she has already made the move to independent. if she feels like the caucus is not going to be receptive of her. then, she is strange enough, where she might make the full monte switch all the way to the republican side. remember, she started out as a green party member. then, democrat. now, independent. i would not put a pastor to go the other way as well. you need to keep that in mind in the calculus of the politics as well. so, marissa, what do you think is in this fall sinema? is she destined to become the next king? is that what she wants? to be seen as this independent kingmaker of sorts? i think so. i think that is her gave it right now. but she does not have the same
fellow progressives talking maybe you don t call them moderates, but whoever they are, holding the whole caucus hostage. the big problem is it s big pharma and special interests who don t want to have to pay for this. what we are running into is enormous opposition from the drug companies because they don t want to have us lower the cost of prescription drugs. the health care industry surely does not want us to expand medicare to cover dental, eyeglasses and hearing aids. we are currently being held hostage by conservative democrats who are doing the bidding of big pharma, big oil and wall street. this is i think this is what concerns folks who are watching this bill, because it doesn t matter if it was $3 trillion bill or a $20 trillion bill. the point is who doesn t want it? and kyrsten sinema has taken a lot of money from chamber of commerce type groups, big pharma. she even got an internship, an $1100 intern hardship at a