so the covid confusion, short alks and disruptions are on top of one another. from hospitals to schools, workplaces, airports. what should the administration s current strategy look like? and what powers do they actually have legally and politically? well, the supreme court is going to let us know soon. with me now is our own carol lee outside the white house. ken is outside the supreme court. the hearings are still going on. we have professor of bio ethics and a co-director of case western s law medicine center. carol, i want to start with you, because you know, another day and a sort of i don t want to call it mixed messages, but sort of it does seem the white house and the president is trying to straddle a fence of they re going to pivot to a learn to live with covid strategy, but he doesn t want to sound like he s totally given up on ending this pandemic. well, chuck, from the president s perspective, or the white house s perspective
ever-evolving nature in the midst of a really fast-moving pandemic. and we are doing so putting our head down to keep america safe. we will continue to update. we will continue to improve how we communicate to the american public. this is fast-moving science. carol, i think the question i have is is the cdc have a messaging problem, or does the cdc and the covid task force and the white house, is it their own communications problem? i mean, i can t figure out what this is. is the cdc not able to put the guidance out that they want because, say, we don t have enough tests, or are they just unable to communicate it very well because the white house isn t giving them any guidance on that? i think it s a little bit of both. there is some for example, have sympathy for the cdc because of what the director said. this is something that s fast-moving and look, any time that you have a virus like this