Volume 1, 193. He lied three times. Why didnt you charge him with a crime . I cant get into internal deliberations as to what or would not be you charged a lot of people from making false statements. Lets remember this. In 2016 the fbi did something they probably havent done before. They spied on two american citizens associated with the president ial campaign. George papadopoulos and carter page. Was carter page who then went to the g the fisa court. With mr. Papadopoulos they didnt go to the court. They used human sources. From about the moment papadopoulos joins the Trump Campaign you have all of these people All Around The World starting to swirl around him. Names like halper, downer, misfeud, thompson. Meeting in rome, london, all
kinds of places and the fbi even sent a lady posing as somebody else. Went by the name turk to spy on papadopoulos. In one of the meetings he is talking to a foreign diplomat and he says that the russians have dirt on clinton. That Diplomat Contacts the
is he western or russian intelligence? i can t get into that. a lot of things you can t get into. you can charge 13 russians no one s ever heard of, no one is ever going to see them, you can charge them. you can charge all kinds of people who are around the president with false statements. but the guy who launches everything, the guy who puts this whole story in motion, you can t charge him. i think that s amazing. i m not certain i m not certain i agree with your characterizations. well, i m reading from your report. misfeud told papadopoulos and papadopoulos tells the diplomat and the diplomat tells the fbi and the fbi opens the investigation in 2016 and here we are, three years later july of 2019, the country has been put through this and the central figure who launches it all? he lies to us and you guys don t hunt him down and interview him again. and you don t charge him with the crime. now here s the good news. here s the good news. the president was falsely accused o
no. which is surprising to me. hold on. because he s walking back in. robert mueller. they took a little break. they re going to resume i think for another hour and a half now before the judiciary part of the hearing concludes and then they go before the house committee. mr. richmond? thank you, mr. chairman. mr. mueller, congressman deutsche addressed the request to mcgahn to fire you. representative bass talked about the president s request of mcgahn to deny the fact that the president made that request. so i want to pick up where they left off and i want to pick up with the president s personal lawyer. in fact, there was evidence that the president s personal lawyer was alarmed at the prospect of the president meeting with mr. mcgahn to discuss mr. mcgahn s
apparently so. right after mr. mcgahn refused to follow the order to fire you, the president came one a new plan. that was to go around all of his senior advisers and government aides to have a private citizen try to limit your investigation. what did the president tell mr. lewandowski to do? do you recall you dictated a message to mr. lewandowski for attorney general sessions and asked him to write it down, is that correct? true. did you and your team see this handwritten message? i m not going to get into what we may or may not have included in our investigation. okay. the message directed sessions to give i m quoting from your report to give a public speech saying that he planned to meet with the special counsel to explain this is very unfair. and let the special counsel move forward for future elections that s on page 91, correct question. yes, it is. in other words, mr. lewandowski a private citizen was instructed by the president of the united states to deliver
going all the way back to the 60s when you served in vietnam. because i have a seat on the intelligence committee i ll have questions later and because of our limited time i will ask to enter this letter into without objection. i yield to my colleague from california, mr. liu. thank you, director mueller, for your long history of service to our country, including your service as a marine, where you earned a bronze star. i d like to turn to the elements of obstruction of justice as applied to the president s attempts to curtail your investigation. the first element of obstruction of justice requires an obstructive act, correct? correct. okay. i d like to direct you to page 97 of volume two of your report. yo wrote there on page 97, quote, session was being instructed to tell the special counsel to end the existing investigation into the president and his campaign, unquote. that s in the report, correct? correct.