the other party in november. harris? harris: all right, mike, great to see you. thank you very much. mike: thank you. harris: you know it s interesting in minnesota because it has been purple at times. walter mondale lives there near a buoy lake. i remember the days of jesse ventura. anything can happen including a former governor going up against a guy named jeff johnson and losing. no. and, of course, it s that sort of anything goes that you are talking about that was very appealing for the state for donald trump. obviously he didn t win. harris: exactly. he lost it by a very small margin. and i think that he would be very much in play there in four years. harris: or less than four. what s happening in four years? harris: it s interesting the effect. i don t know, katie, did we see it with obama? remind me if we did, the kind of rubber stamp that the president can give a