a scale of 1 to 5, ranking the best to worst in the white house 5 being the worst you gave meadows a 12. that s generous. i m curious as to how he warranted a 12 rating. what makes him such a bad guy? i m speaking in my own personal capacity there about my personal experiences but he went into the white house making grand promises to the president that he would find all of the leakers, get good press. the things that the president wanted to hear. he would of course say yes to the president on every single thing he said and inl there s threatening phone calls of him calling people especially with the election say in georgia trying to bully people into doing things that they didn t want to or feel comfortable with. for me personally he tried to ruin my reputation and he talked about the fact that i leaked the bunker story when the president
things were working. he kept saying, will you do a press conference? i said, yes, if i m ever asked, i ll do a press conference. he started dismantling my team. he wanted me to bring people in that i didn t feel comfortable bringing in. he had this way of being very dishonest, if i m just you know, he d say, oh, everything is fine. you re safe. i don t know what s going on. then, you know, i d hear leaks that i was going to be pushed out. i finally was the one who resigned. he didn t push me out. i resigned to go back to mrs. trump as chief of staff. when i was in the east wing, he actively worked to get the president to believe i was the person who leaked the bunker story, when they went to the bunker, which i unequivocally did not do. i hear he recommended i be f fired. he put me through a lot of weird torture. always needing to meet with me,
some aids ever seen him. he should be charged with treason and executed. outfront now michael bender frankly we did win this election, the story how trump lost and there is so much in here and i want to try to get to some points here and i know people will buy it and read the whole thing for themselves. that bombshell from your book is getting a lot of attention today. you re revealing how furious trump was when he first saw the bunker story. why did that strike such a nerve? after owl things that make all the hmost furious. the walls were coming in and trump could feel it. middle of 2020. he started the year at a real high point. yes, he d been impeached but survived and thriving. his polls were at the highest point they were. the only thing he wanted to talk about was red hot and just a few months later, all of that was gone. and he s in the middle of the
actually what they re doing this is cover for some sort of underground bunker in order to, you know, have a safe place for the president and other top officials if god forbid there were terror attack or some other massive event. i can tell you from talking to various officials they think that is the bunker story i guess is bunk. they say this is utility story. if you want the real story, jon, i could tell you but i would have to hurt you. i don t want to do that we re friends. jon: i appreciate that, ed. i always thought all you needed to drag in some underground utility lines was a ditch witch and trenching machine. whatever. reporter: they re doing couple of years. that raised eyebrows. why are they digging for two or three years? jon: you have to wonder. that is a big utility dig. ed, thank you so much. reporter: good to see you. jenna: more on that story coming up. meantime newt gingrich is gaining momentum for the gop presidential nomination. rasmussen asked voters who would t