think, is the ability of those boats to provide historical data showing that they have traditionally finished those waters, which would entitle them to licenses under the post brexit trade agreements, but if they are unable to provide that information because they re small boats don t have traffic systems and the like or they don t accept the information they provide, that is where the difficulty comes. what we have seen today the efforts to address this in high level talks between the eu and the uk, that is between the eu and the uk, that is between lord frost who is also dealing with other issues relating to northern ireland and the protocol. those have not led to a break there. we have the ambassador being called in this afternoon here in london and all of this is the sort of politics swirling around those a0 or 50 licenses. that was from damien. let s discuss this with barrie deas,