There s growing outrage over a possible plea deal between the federal government and khalid sheikh mohammed, the suspected mastermind behind the 9/11 attacks. the agreement would allow the man known as ksm along with his four alleged co-conspirators to avoid the death penalty and a public trial in exchange for pleading guilty. the possible agreement now prompting fierce backlash from victims families, with thousands signing a letter to president biden urging him to oppose any plea deal. bret ehlingson is the author of the letter, he lost his father in the world trade center attack. bret, thank you so much for joining us. you have said your many objection to a plea deal isn t the defendants escaping the death penalty but the lack of a public trial. can you talk about that? yeah. thank you for having me.