His efforts to interfere with this election. now his defense is going to push hard on this fact that he was simply or their argument that he was simply trying to contest what he thought was a rigged election. but, you know, there s a lot of evidence stacked up there that he knew this election was stolen and he continued to push and pushed in ways that were not legitimate. it s one thing to bring a case in court. it s another thing to arrange for fake electors. so i think that evidence will start to play out in much the way it did in the january 6th hearings but at a different point in time as we were just talking about and in a different forum. and the forum is extremely important. we re so used to the pr back and forth the statements, the bombastic yelling at one another. this is in a court of law. there are legal precedents and requirements here. that is a different venue. thank you, guys, very much. we ll take you back out live to clearwater, florida, where the city and surrou