what charge is the most easie applicable? it is a crime to submit a false document to a federal agency. if you or i were to submit a false document to social security, medicare, medicare, the irs, and did it intentionally, that would be a federal crime. same here. these documents went to the national archives. if they were sent in order to trick or deceive the national archives or congress, that would be a federal crime. the defense is going to be in case. just in case the courts threw out the biden electorals. so that will be a argument we hear both ways and the issue prosecutors have to wrestle with. as we look at that map with the seven different states involved then the actual fake documents put together, we ve learned rudy giuliani led this effort with bogus electors. he has been subpoenaed by the january 6th committee, but what kind of legal trouble could he
there they are. not household names perhaps. merely junior officers in the failed assault on democracy. we will have to provide documents to the select committee by the 11th of next month in addition to appearing for depositions. attorney general in one of the states new mexico in which republicans fielded a slate of bo bogus electors. i am wondering what your reaction is to the news that select admit committee seems to be on a parallel track with the justice-department investigation into this fake elector scam? well, i think it s prudent thank you for having me, first of all, this evening i think it s prudent there are multiple investigations in multiple states both at the state or federal level. but i also think law enforcement is paying close attention to the select committee. we are watching very closely because we are trying to determine what the intent was of these electors, and conspiracy seems to be the greatest risk at this point but at this point we are just gathering
battleground states that he actually lost. the committee wants information from individuals listed as chairperson or secretary of the slate of bogus electors. it s across seven states, in fact, arizona, georgia, michigan, new mexico, nevada, pennsylvania, and wisconsin. let s bring in msnbc legal analyst and former u.s. attorney joyce vance. joyce, as i welcome you, these subpoenas come days after deputy attorney general lisa monaco also confirmed that federal prosecutors are looking into this matter. the doj is considering whether or not to press criminal charges. what do you think makes that determination? well, first, i think i would caution folks not to overread what deputy attorney general monaco said. i think she was acknowledging that doj had received a referral on these cases, these investigations from state prosecutors, and that they were determining whether or not to open a matter. i wouldn t view this as a full-on acknowledgment that doj is investigating. but that threshol
we visited, for example, california. they have a different take on some of this because they ve been doing it and seeing some really good results and we get into all of that as well as talk to a lot of different drives who have had a lot of issues when it comes to being pulled over and the majority of them are black. erin? looking forward to seeing this. don t miss traffic stop: dangerous encounters sunday night at 9:00. it s time for anderson. good evening on a busy night that includes a massive snowstorm about to hit the eastern seaboard. we begin with breaking news in the january 6th investigation. the house select committee is now taking direct aim with subpoenas at the former president s scheme to get around the problem of losing the electoral college by putting forth his own bogus electors. listen to stephen miller at the
on a busy night that includes a massive snow storm about to hit the eastern sea board, we begin with breaking news on the january ev6th investigation. the house select committee now taking direct aim with the former president s scheme of losing the heck torl college by putting forth his own bogus electors. listen to stephen miller at the time heying out the game plan. as we speak today, an alternate slate of electors in the contested states is going to vote and we are going to send those results up to congress. this will ensure that all of our legal remedies remain open. well, that was december 14th, 2020, and sure enough that same day in michigan some of those phony electors tried to gain attendance to the state capitol as legitimate electors were inside. they were bhoked by police. so, as comical as this might have looked on the surface, it was part of a serious and openly stated plan. now, the committee has issued subpoenas for the two top republican figures on each of the phony