Outstanding, interest and the federal budget goes up $600 billion a year, in a year. that s a big number. that s a number you can t mess with. then on top of that, neil, 71% of our federal budget is entitledments. no politician alive wants to touch that. so where do we pull this thing in? i think we have the capacity to get the job done. but i would be remiss if i didn t say it s going to take some pain and suffering. i hope frankly that it s more pain and suffering on people like me than on the poor people that are working from pay check to paycheck who are struggling to educate their kids, to feed their kids, to clothe their kids. these are the people that we have to worry about. these are the people most effected negatively by inflation. neil: bob langone, a real pleasure. thank you, dr. neil.