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welcome back to the weekend. new this morning, donald trump telling lies. that is not that new. he is lashing out at the federal government in his first interview after being convicted of falsifying business records. take a listen. it is a scam. the republican party, they stick together in this. it is weaponization of the justice department and of the fbi. that is all coming out of washington. take a look at who opened the case. i m not allowed to talk about it because i have a gag order. joining us is former fbi council andrew wiseman and a law professor at new york university and our msnbc legal analyst, legal assistant attorney general mary mccord. andrew and mary are the cohosts of the award-winning podcast prosecuting donald trump. we talked about a tax on the justice system. i want to get to that. i think it is important to underscore that, in addition to attacking the judge in the doj, he is also attacking the jury itself. these are just average citizens ....
The election and lose everything and say, but we upheld the independence of the court. that is not going to save us. speaker johnson has back channeled to the court then we should find out about that. we should do everything we can to make sure that they are independent. and by the way, the hypocrisy. we back the blue. we back the blue. the blue go and issue a search warrant on their guy and then they want to defund the police. they say they are all for state rights and then they get a court that overturns roe v wade and now they want a federal abortion ban and then they said the court should be independent and respected but by the way, if we need to, we can back out. it is not about the constitution but serving trump. i want to double down and emphasize what symone said. i think it is important for the american people to understand this context. you cannot tell me in the one instance that, we can t account for the behavior and the way ....
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