with lawrence o donnell. good evening lawrence. good evening, alex, i was listening to your coverage about the possibility of donald trump testifying to the january six committee, even after he gets a subpoena. and of course, he will fight it all the way. and we ll pretend though at the same time, through strategic legs, oh yeah, he s thinking about it, maybe he ll do it. like he did with the mueller investigation for so long. there is no chance he was ever going to testify. it s all a routine. it s all a hoax! don t believe it! i mean, the idea that he d been cooperative at the same time while he s throwing every bit of sand he can into the works is like, you know, come on, we know fully once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. we all know how the story ends. you know who s going to testify? his mascot, lindsey graham has been ordered by the federal appeals court to testify to the georgia grand jury that is investigating among other things lindsey graham s phone cal
Is it possible that judge cannon, and i guess as i found myself asking the question i realize how crazy it is, we are trying to predict the actions of a judge who has done the craziest things we ve ever seen. what this judge dare to try to rule against this giant hierarchy of the judiciary that s already ruled against her? the unfortunately, i think the answer to that is yes. but as you noted, there is a pending appeal that could pull the plug on all of this. and i do think everyone should step back and think about what happened this week. to put it in blonde terms, the good guys mont because they had the facts and the law on their side. judge carter made an incredible decision with respect to the former president. john durham had a district judge dismissed one of his cases as being flat out so