i think that s a fair point you re both hitting on, which is the way he s standing against everything, standing to thwart progress is the legacy he wants to preserve which brings us to another news update i have. dr. dean, it s always good to see you. mya stays with me for this one. bipartisan police reform talks, which is something we ve been covering on the beat since their inception. we ve been wondering if it was worth it but democrats like cory booker and others said give them a shot. the news tonight, these talks have collapsed. the three lead negotianegotiato congresswoman bass, senator booker and tim scott from the republican party basically making it official, calling it quits today. a key sticking point is something we ve reported on from the start. many experts and blm movement activists said you need to reform qualified immunity that shields police. if you don t do that, you don t get anywhere.