Votes against a social media company, taking steps that could lead to a u. S. Ban on the popular chineseowned social media app tiktok. National security concerns at odds with the platforms 170 million american users. We will talk about that and the prospects in the senate. The judge in georgia dropping three of the 13 federal charges against donald trump ahead of his trial. What the judge is calling into question and how that could push the case past election day. Warning signs, as Vladimir Putin talks about nuclear war. Nancy pelosi joins me on new house efforts to force a vote on aid to ukraine. Good day, everyone. Im Andrea Mitchell in washington. Theres big news today from capitol hill. In a rare moment of bipartisanship, the house voted overwhelmingly, 35265, passing a bill that could lead to a ban on tiktok over National Security concerns. Specifically, the potential that the platforms chinese owner would have access to sensitive personal data on more than 170 million americans who use the app. The bill now heads to the senate where it does face significant opposition. If it passes, President Biden said he will sign the legislation which would require tiktoks parent company, bitedance, to sell the app within six months or be banned from the u. S. Joining us now, Julie Tsirkin who has been all over this. Now that the measure passed the house, it got the twothirds, more than it needed that it did require to pass, what are the prospects in the senate . Reporter thats a great question. Certainly one that House Members i was talking to are wondering. They point to the vote total, 35265 as a sign that Senate Leadership were looking for before deciding whether to put the measure, that was fast tracked, before deciding to put that on the floor. A couple of minutes ago, the Senate Majority leader Chuck Schumer released a tepid statement saying the senate will review the legislation when it comes to the house and thats it. Yesterday, he said he is talking to his Committee Chairs about the steps forward on this. Certainly, as you mentioned, there are concerns, including from some on the right to civil liberty protection, some on the left alsopointing out this reaches 170 million americans. There are First Amendment concerns here as well. Theres the issue of the former president. Former President Trump who himself tried to ban tiktok but was challenged in the courts now flipflopping on this issue saying that it would make meta more powerful, owned by zuckerberg. That didnt seem to play in at all as a factor to the many republicans who supported this in the house. They ended up voting against this, matt gaetz, a major ally of the former president telling our intern that, no, trump was not a factor when it came to his vote in favor of the bill. We will see the steps forward in the senate. But schumer is in no rush to put it on the floor. I want to ask you about donald trump. Theres questions about why All Of A Sudden donald trump, who supported restrictions on tiktok back when he was president and there was an Executive Order, it was overturned by the federal courts, now All Of A Sudden he is in favor of supporting tiktok and All Of A Sudden a huge investor in bitedance, 20 billion investment was at maralago. Trump talked about his change of position on this. Lindsey graham seemed to change his position on Meet The Press. Whats going on there . Reporter you are in an Election Year. You are several months away from november. Of course, its actually democrats that have pointed to President Biden needing Youth Engagement from the app. Im talking about people like senator dick durbin. As i was talking about, you have a very small number of republicans who seem to actually be listening to the former president. I asked them why he is flipflopping on this issue. For example, chip roy had said the former president is not going to play a factor in how this moves forward. Again, you only have 15 republicans in the house out of a larger number than that, we are losing count because of the retirements we are seeing, who didnt support this effort to move this bill forward. I suspect it will be a question that plagues some senators. Julie tsirkin, thank you. Lets turn to chris krebs. Its good to see you. Talk to me about the National Security concerns about bitedance, Chinese Company chineseowned, where china has laws that beijing, the government has access to everything that is in their companies. Theres no such thing as privacy or a barrier. This does get to the heart of the mechanics of the legislation, seeking to gain a change of control. The objective of the legislation is to break the bitedance tiktok relationship as Congress Sees it. The Chinese Communist party has the ability to influence how bitedance manages, operates the platform. There are significant National Security concerns, at least on two prongs with tiktok. First is Data Collection and access. All the user Data Collected across the app gets pulled up into the cloud effectively. That has historically, by tiktoks admission, accessed by bitedance personnel in china. Thats obviously a privacy issue. Thats a National Security issue. The second is the ability to influence content on the platform. It gets to the heart of the algorithm question and how information is presented to users. Thats another aspect that i think the congress is trying to deal with. Perhaps have a Different Company if you think back to the way President Trump with his Executive Order sought to break the financial relationships, it would have had a takeover by a u. S. Company. The hope is any Algorithm Influence would not have Chinese Communist party influence or really direct pressure on. One of the issues that swisher, who is so knowledgeable about this, was raising on today was, even if it is sold it would be very, very difficult, not to say impossible for bitedance to be sold within six months and get around this, nor has the ceo who has been on the hill lobbying and famously was testifying against this, talking about this. But even if it was sold, wouldnt the new company get the algorithms, still have them . So beijing still has access to those algorithms. Perhaps. I think there is a model where there could be a transfer of an instance of the algorithms that would then be separated, segmented off, bifurcated. For the future. But they have everything they have got already. From that point on, the algorithm would be independently managed. You would suspect over time, whoever would take control of the tiktok platform, would subsequently be able to they would be responsible for maintaining the code. That code over time would be updated. It would not have that direct influence potentially. That is one of the concerns, particularly as we look ahead to the 2024 election, that someone with ulterior motives can get in and adjust in real time how the algorithm presents and suppresses content. If you have that break in six months we are getting there in the sense, they have to act if folks want to see this get into law and deal with the sixmonth divestment period, at that point then the hope is that the algorithm would be separated from any net new influence. Commerce secretary romando expressing her concerns about it. Tiktok presents serious National Security risks to the people of the United States. Significant National Security risk. You would support a ban . I would. I would. She was in china when she did that interview. She did an interview with us, talked about concerns about chinese Data Collection from evs from ev technology. She has National Security Regulatory Power now. I think its important to step back and look at the broader relationship between the United States and china. Theres no question that over the last several years, going back to the trump administration, theres been a concerted effort to address chinese aggression, particularly in the digital domain. Think back a couple years ago, we had similar legislation that forced the u. S. Government to stop procuring certain technologies, huawei comes to mind. This is another step forward in the National Security community, stepping up and saying, we are concerned about digital aggression and broader chinese aggression, and were going to take action to remedy that. This is a much broader commercial and consumer impacting step. There will be legal considerations and litigation. You can bet. Absolutely. The impact of this, of course, in an Election Year where their influence they have tried this before and been successful at times. I will point in the worldwide Threat Assessment report that the director of National Intelligence released monday, it cited chinese proxies that interfered in the 2022 election. This is not theoretical. This is here. This is today. I interviewed haines about that in December Of 2022 at the Reagan Defense forum. She raised concerns about it when i asked her about tiktok. Its the first time she had spoken out about it. You are the perfect guest today. Appreciate it. Breaking news, the judge in fulton county, in the Election Interference Case has dropped six charges from the indictment and three of those charges had to do with donald trump. The others were his codefendants. What that means coming up next. 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In georgia, judge mcafee dismissing six of the criminal case against donald trump and some of his codefendants saying that they lack sufficient detail. Three of those counts are connected to donald trump. Joining us is Blayne Alexander and lisa ruben and vaughn hillyard. Lisa, first to you on the legal aspects of this. One of the counts against the president involved the famous Brad Raffensperger call. It does. Even though the count itself has been thrown out, the evidence pertaining to the call and more importantly the allegation that it is an overt act in furtherance of the conspiracy means it stays in the case. All that judge mcafee has done is say that these cannot stand as standalone counts in the indictment. They are still on the hook for a Rico Conspiracy and the call is part of that and remains in the case. We have not heard any decision from judge mcafee we expected it this week on the challenge against having willis remain as d. A. On the case, because of her relationship with the lead prosecutor. Reporter absolutely. When we started the week, that was the big decision we were expecting. According to people that i have spoken with who are involved in this case, todays decision caught them by surprise. It was a surprise to all of us covering this from day to day. You are right, thats the other issue that we are waiting on to drop. We know that the judge is going to have that decision by friday that stays within the twoweek deadline. When you take a step back, and you just look at the totality of what we have been talking about in this georgia case for the better part of the last 2 1 2 months, whether he decides to keep willis on the case or remove her, this has been a tremendous delay in the case. She wanted this case to go to trial sometime in the summer, before the election, in early august. You look at todays ruling, but certainly combined with the motion to remove her from the case all together, that makes that time line all but impossible. When we speak with people here in georgia, we know that people who were involved in this are preparing either way for what this would look like if willis were removed or if she were to stay on. Vaughn, lets talk about reaction from Donald Trumps attorney in georgia. Reporter this stems from motions filed by his defense team in georgia. Of course, having this motion to toss these counts, three specifically to donald trump, its a partial victory for them. I want to let you look at part of a statement from his legal team in georgia. They wrote of course, over the next several hours, waiting for the decision on the potential disqualification of willis. Also, donald trump with a hearing in florida tomorrow related to the classified documents indictment. Of course, we are 11 days from the beginning of the Hush Money Payment Trial right here in new york city. Thanks to all of you. The funding fight. The white house approving a minor arms deal for ukraine, 300 million. Air defense, longrange missiles, a lot more that is needed to help ukraine as putin is marching ahead. How House Democrats plan to try to work around the republican obstruction by the speaker. Nancy pelosi joining me next. This is Andrea Mitchell reports only on msnbc. Ports oc like carpal tunnel syndrome, shortness of breath, and Irregular Heartbeat could be something more serious called attrcm, a rare, underdiagnosed disease that worsens over time. Sound like you . Call your cardiologist, and ask about attrcm. [dog whimpers] [thinking] why always the couch . Does he need to go to puppy school . Get his little Puppy Diploma . How much have i been spending on this little guy . When your questions about life turn into questions about money. Theres erica. The virtual financial assistant to help you spend, save, and plan smarter. Only from bank of america. My name is oluseyi and some of my favorite moments throughout my life are watching sports with my dad. Now, i work at comcast as part of the team that created our ai highlights technology, which uses ai to detect the major plays in a sports game. Giving millions of fans, like my dad and me, new ways of catching up on their favorite sport. President Vladimir Putin is again ramping up his Nuclear Threat in response to Suggestion Suggestions from frances president. Putin is poised to win another sixyear term because of a socalled election in russia, an election completely controlled by the regime, even as putins forces are advancing in ukraine and u. S. Military aid is blocked from getting a vote in the house by the speaker mike johnson. Joining us now is nancy pelosi of california and we are pleased to have retired colonel vindman, also a board member at renew democracy initiative. I want to talk about ukraine, of course. First, get your reaction to the house vote today pressuring tiktok to divest and could be banned. Im here and honored to be here with colonel vindman. He brought us together, house and senate, members who served, strongly urging a vote now, mr. Speaker. What was intsteresting was to s the father of mr. Harris he is a marine, his son was a marine who died volunteering in ukraine. Mr. Oleary, who himself now is volunteering, and urging others to do so for democracy in ukraine. The vote this morning was a vote to protect the National Security of our country and the privacy of our citizens. I pointed out at the time that tiktok in china broadcast into taiwan that the uyghurs love what china is doing. Its genocide. The people in hong kong love the crushing of their democracy. The reasons this is about human rights and privacy and democracy. Most importantly, if the chinese government, as it does with bitedance and its partnership, controls the algorithm, we are at their mercy. If they control the data, the privacy data of our people, we are at their mercy. I was very pleased the vote was so conclusive. Over 350 votes for this legislation. We hope the senate will take up a privacy bill. In terms of democracy and fighting autocrats and the rest, im honored to be with colonel vindman. His leadership with vote vets on this subject is making all the difference. Im pleased to yield to him. Indeed. Colonel vindman, a great friend of our program for many years. Talk to me about the warning from the National Security officials at Threat Assessment hearings yesterday. The cia director warning ukraine will lose more ground to russia in the 60 billion in u. S. Aid is not approved. I think thats absolutely true. He was referring to facts on the ground as they are unfolding. The russians are shooting five or ten to one rounds of artillery. The russians have all the constructs that they are accumulating. In spite of that, its amazing how well the ukrainians are performing. They have destroyed a third of the black sea fleet. Their indigenous drones penetrating and going after military targets, Infrastructure Targets in russia while the russians are pursuing civilian populations. The ukrainians are performing extremely well. They cant do it without our help. Its an honor to work with Speaker Pelosi and her team. I work current Speaker Johnson would show a fraction of the courage and leadership she has shown. We are able to assemble a dozen congressmen, a number of senators, these vets that have fought in ukraine as well as wars in iraq and afghanistan, communicated why they were there. The purpose is to rally support for this ukrainian bill. Speaker johnson has to bring this to a vote. We have a multiphase plan. We have a billboard rotating around capitol hill with reagan urging the republicans to vote. We have a campaign we are looking to launch against republicans for failing to pass to vote on this ukraine aid bill. We will be there. We will continue to press because vote vets and the veteran community understands that if we dont defend ukraine now, thats a Direction Threat to our troops in the near future. We will be there to protect our troops. Theres support. It will pass the house and senate, according to all vote counting. You are the best vote counter i know in either party. It hasnt gotten to the floor for a vote. Theres a Discharge Petition to force a vote. Its not an easy challenge, because it requires 218 signatures. Its being circulated in the house. Do you think they can get the signatures . Is there another procedure . There are other ways. Is there any way to get this to the floor . First of all, we want there is strong bipartisan support. There are some hesitating. Strong bipartisan support in the house. Thats why we are saying to the speaker, just let the housework its will in a bipartisan way. Yes, we have these parliamentary approaches that we can take. I dont want to show too much of a hand on that. We are in the course of signing the Discharge Petition now. Hopefully, we will get to 218, which will bring the vote to the floor. It takes time. Time is really important. I think its important to note this. I heard this again and again, especially when i was in munich. I saw you there. The russian army is bigger now than it was when they first went into ukraine. They are Buying Support in other countries, in other parts of russia to entice people to sign up to fight in this war. Their goal is to have a million and a half in the russian army. They have designs on other countries. The fight in ukraine is a fight for democracy, not only there but in the other states surrounding it and a challenge to all of us. Thats why we are saying to the speaker, the right thing to do is to honor the wishes of the house, the strong bipartisan support thats there, and give us a vote. Thats the fastest way. We have other techniques. They take a little more time. Time is a very valuable commodity when you are getting shot at and you dont have the proper equipment to initiate or respond to. These congressmen signed up to serve. They swore
two trains crashing into one another, killing 36 people. we have the latest developments. for the first time in more than 30 years, chicago sitting mayor has lost re-election in a race that was dominate bid rising crime. is it a warning sign for other big city democrats? you re talking about a potential leak. the fbi providing his first public confirmation on their assessment about covid originally leaking from a chinese lab. we ll have more on the comments ahead. all that ahead, first, to our breaking news. a devastating train crash in greece killed more than 36 people. dozens are injured. a passenger train carrying hundreds of people collided head on with a freight train. multiple cars derailed. several catching fire. this happened north of athens. state broadcasters reporting that both trains were traveling on the same track for several miles before this collision. first responders still working, trying to find survivors in the twisted melted wreckage. hospital officials say most of the passengers were young people. for reporting on this and update, let s go to our report we are the latest on the tragedy. terrible news. what do you know at this hour? yeah. it s absolutely horrific. the passengers that survived say that the impact was so intense that it felt like an earthquake. people were being thrown around in the carriages. the first two carriages caught a light. there is nothing left of the carriages. you have cranes and metal cutting machinery trying to work through the wreckage to see if there are more victims. we re hearing family members and parents of university students waiting outside the hospital trying to identify or at least figure out where their loved ones are. 346 people on that passenger train traveling up from athens to greece. and a train on the same track being head on collision. so many questions around why weren t there any safety protocols activated? they were traveling on the same track for several miles, as you say. the national broadcaster also saying that there is so many questions around the safety of the railway. 66 people injured, seven of whom currently in critical condition. the prime minister was just at the crash site saying there will be no efforts spaured to figure out why this happened and to ensure this doesn t happen again. this is absolutely tragic. you re hearing sad and horrific stories about the victims at this point. tragedy. it sounds like it could have been preventable. thank you for the reporting. don? we take you to chicago now. the mayor lost re-election in a resounding defeat that could have implications for big city democrats. there is no question that crime was the big issue that dominated this race. lori lightfoot came in third place failing to advance to a runoff. i m grateful we got guns off our streets, reduced homicides and started making real progress on public safety. under mayor litefoot s watch, crime spiked. it became a talking point for republicans and former president trump. shootings and murders dropped last year. other crimes including carjackings and robberies are up. that s according to police. the candidate that won the most votes is a democrat. won the endorsement of the police union. he received double the number of votes that lori lightfoot did. omar jiminez is live in the windy city. good morning to you. you know, omar, crime is a top campaign issue in chicago and other big cities. it really has. midway through her administration, the mayor told me if people don t feel safe literally nothing else matters. i think this, in part, was the embodyment of that. she was the city s first black woman to be mayor. she is the city s first openly gay mayor. and now she is set to be the first full term incumbent mayor in chicago history to lose re-election in the last 40 years. now when you look at what she dealt with, she said we re on the other side of a once in a lifetime sense of challenges from the peak of the pandemic to jum jumps in gun violence, lifl un civil unrest and more. so let me ask you a little bit more about this. is there an early favorite to take for lightfoot not heading to this runoff? the runoff is in april. is it paul valace or who is it? at this point it s essentially a battle between the police union and teachers union. the former head of school is in chicago and philadelphia. he is backed by the police union. really ran on top public safety campaign. and brandon johnson, a cook county commissioner, he s back by the teachers union. take a listen. we will make chicago the safest city in america. months ago, they said they didn t know who i was. well, if you didn t know, now you know. johnson obviously excited. but, you know, he really talked about how he wants to end the tale of two cities where one side of the city has resources and the other doesn t. vallas also talked about wanting to be a mayor for all of chicago. and those are both messages i think we re going to see play out and the lead-up to this april 4th runoff election. that happened because no candidate this time as expected got 50% of the vote. and so now april 4th is when we decide on a new mature of chicago. what s interesting, it looks like the conservative side of the democratic party and progressive side squeezed out lori lightfoot right there in the middle. yeah. i mean, it makes you wonder if the matchup for lightfoot would have been more favorable fit was her against vallas in the r runoff. we ll see what happens. omar jiminez, thank you. appreciate it. also new this morning, the fbi director is now providing first public confirmation that bureau does believe the pandemic was most likely caused by a lab leak. the fbi has folks, agents, professionals, analysts, virologists, micro biologists, et cetera, who focus on the dangers of biological threats which includes things like novel viruses like covid. and the concerns in the wrong hands some bad guys, hostile natio nations, the threats those could pose. we are joined now by nausea bertrand. it is something to hear him say this publicly. we knew the fbi made this conclusion. now they re in the same camp as the department of energy with their updated assessment of this. it is interesting to hear them talk about not just what this means but also to point the finger at china saying that they re the ones who were still blocking the united states and other nations from finding out truly what happened. and that s the big problem here, kaitlan. the intelligence community while different elements of the ic have different opinions about what happened here, ultimately what they do agree on and this is according to a 2021 report released by the office of director of national intelligence is china s cooperation in this investigation is going to be pretty essential to coming to a definitive conclusion about how the pandemic began. multiple high ranking u.s. officials have said that it appears that china has been thwarting efforts by the international community to do that. to actually do they re own investigation into the origins of the pandemic. it is interesting that chris ray came out and said. this we haven t heard from him directly on this subject since the fbi, of course, did could be clued according to our sources with moderate confidence that the pandemic emerges from a lab leak. hearing him say that and saying that the fbi has thought for quite some time indicating that they have not actually changed their position over the last nearly two years, is quite notable, especially as you said after the department of energy concluded with low confidence that this emerged from a lab leak. as many officials have said, it is probably more we re not going to get to the bottom of this without some smoking gun here, kaitlan. which is kind of mind blowing. sore we have the department of energy and fbi over here that say they do believe it was a lab leak despite, you know, it s not a high confidence assessment. we have other agency that s either have not made a determination or believe that it could have been passed on from an animal. what does that divide say about the government as a whole and their approach to this if there is no smoking gun that they have? had. we should note that fbi s view is still a minority opinion within the intelligence community. the eight intel agency that s produced that assess nment in 2021, they believe this emerged naturally from a animal in the wild. then you have the department of energy saying they think it is a lab leak. they believe that both are plausible but there is not enough evidence to figure it out definitively. i think the ic pretty much concluded here that without more on the ground information, it is probably just going to be impossible to say how this began. there is only so much you can do from afar, right? analyzing the data without that kind of on the ground investigation, kaitlan. we know we ll hear from other officials when they testify in the next week or so. natasha, thank you. in our next half hour, john avalon is going to take a closer look at the origins of the lab leak theory, how approached previously, the way people talk about it now and what that looks like. look forward to that. meantime, the faa is investigating a really close call, a near collision two of aircraft in boston on monday. this is in the middle of a number of alarming close calls at u.s. airports. the agency says jetblue, a flight by jetblue coming in to land when a private jet took out without clearance from an intersecting tarmac. look at that. air traffic controllers told the leer jet to line up and wait. and the leer jet pilot read the instructions back clearly but began to take off instead. the planes came within 565 feet of one another. there were no injuries. this is the fifth close call this year. other instances took place here, austin and hawaii. the latest revelations from a lawsuit against fox news and the stunning admissions from the in owner rupert murdoch. and sav. whether you like the flavor of cinnamon bun after sunset. or prefer to w wake up to a little eggs and bacon. day or night, it s always titime for crepes. for a limited time, buy one, get one free with five flavors that are delicious any time of day. only from ihop. download the app and earn free food with every order. science proves quality sleep is vital to your mental, emotional, and physical health. and we know 80% of cples sleep too hot or too cold. the only smart bed in the world that activelcools, warms, introducing the new sleep number climate360 smart bed. and effortlessly responds to both of you. our smart sleepers get 28 minutes more restful sleep per night. proven quality sleep. only from sleep number. are you tired of clean clothes that just don t smell clean? 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we should note that all media companies that aren t nonprofit are in the profit making business. the difference here is that if you read these documents, what comes across blisteringly clear is that fox management thought that the competing issues here have nothing really to do with serious journalism and telling the truth. they had to do withholding on to an audience even even if that cost them integrity and reputation as telling the truth to their own audience because they created a monster with their own audience that they were then terrified of. david, i m really struck by the fact that what rupert murdoch said in the deposition when deposed it s not blue, its not red, it s green. he was talking about why they kept allowing mike lindel to come on and spew the lies remains true. they still make a lot of money. and they still have good ratings. so does any of this change form? change fox? you hope it would. if you look across the history of fox this is interesting. people talk about losing will it ever be known as a news channel again as they lost their right to be called a news channel? fox never was the news channel. it was founded in 1996 by a media political operative roger ails as a political operation, not a journalistic operation. and journalism mainstream journalism we think of our role as providing citizens with information so that they can make good choices about their life so they can be free and self governing. that s the public service. fox was founded as a propaganda network for conservative viewpoints. at the time, the you know, he may have been right. you certainly could have that voice on mainstream media. but fox became so powerful, it became the dominant voice. as the republican two things. as a republican party and conservatism moved way to the right, especially in the last decade or so, fox went with it. jonah is right. they re a prisoner of those kinds of profits. and they have to keep feeding that beast of their core audience. i don t think i really i really it s impossible to predict at this point what s going to happen. this is serious, serious stuff. all the things don said in the setup are absolutely right about the first amendment, about freedom of speech, about how you re going to operate as a mainstream news channel. listen this is one of the voices of mainstream discourse in the conversation of american life. this is a big, big case. but i ll tell you what. short of getting blown out of the water by any kind of verdict and fox has the money certainly to pay any kind of monetary fee, i don t think fox is going to change. i don t think its core viewers are going to run away. fox has become a lifestyle. fox has become a 24/7 sort of let us jump in here though, david. you have a lot to say. but, jonah, you worked there for 12 years. i wonder if you agree with how he s characterizing. that parts of the deposition that also stood out that was covered, murdoch asking the ceo susan scott to say something supportive about lindsey gram. we cannot lose the senate if at all possible. the word we. i wonder if you agree with the characterization this is how fox has always been. you were there for 12 years. do you think it changed? yeah. i mean, i agree with the professor. but i think that s overstated. roger ails was a nflawed human being. what he understood is the credibility of fox news as a network depended on the credibility of the fox news division. i know too many people who work in the fox news division to this point who are serious, honest, and sincere journalists trying to do the job right. there are too many people, including working at cnn, who got their starts or worked at fox for a while and have warm things to say about it and say it was always a political operation. the problem at fox is the opinion side was allowed to run free. everyone likes to think that this was some grand policy that they set from above. it is really the lack of leadership under susan scott, the ceo, to reign in, curtail, discipline the prime time people in any way to the point where the opinion side basically became the dog wagging the tail instead of the other way around. and the news side just became sort of this cleanup crew even if the dominion filings. they come out okay in this. bret baier and special report fact checked this stuff. the problem is that the brand level, the brand was more important than everything else. and for rue pepert murdoch and e guys, the definition of the brand is a safe harbor for trump supporters to hear only what they wanted to hear. but, jonah, that is hard to breakthrough when you have when the noise is so loud coming from the morning show which they consider to be entertainment and then opinion. very small portion of their programming actually, the day side programming is considered news. and it s very hard when you see how many people actually watch the opinion side which is way more people than watch the news side. it s hard to distinguish between what is it and what is news and they really don t make a difrpdif distinction about it. there is a problem across the media landscape. it s just wildly out of scale at fox. and the problem is that the opinion side started to set the news agenda. the issues that got ratings for the opinion people became the issues that the news side largely reported on. and just became this sort of se
that s about seven hours from now. about midnight your time, eastern time over there. so there s still some time. still a few hours left for a last-minute deal to be hammered out. and i expect that behind the scenes diplomatic efforts are in overdrive to try and make sure that this hostage deal that has gone on for seven consecutive days will go on for an eighth because it s in the interests of all parties. israel is getting significant numbers of its hostages out. and on the palestinian side in gaza they re getting prisoners released. and of course they re getting an important influx of humanitarian aid. every day this pause in the violence, this pause in the israeli military operation continues. and so look, the hope is that this can go on for longer. but at the moment there s no deal. and there s just a few hours to go. seven hours at most, we think, before time literally runs out on bringing the parties together for an extension of this deal, jake. matthew, within the hour six newly released hostages crossed back into israel. two other hostages were released earlier today. is that it? do we expect any other hostages today? reporter: yeah, we think that s it. that s eight hostages altogether. remember, israel set the number of 10 hostages that it wanted every day in order for there to be a 24-hour pause in the military operation. there were two israeli hostages released in addition to the 10 yesterday. and so they brought that number forward, it seems, and made 10. but i mean, the point is it s getting increasingly difficult for hamas, it seems, under the terms of the current deal, which basically focuses on women and children, to gather enough hostages in a single day to make this swap. there are still about 140 hostages inside gaza, and so there are still israeli hostages there as well as other nationalities as well we understand, who can be swapped, and hamas is in charge in vast swaths of gaza. but when it comes to the adult males and it comes to the hostages who are members of the israeli defense forces, the israeli military, then look, what israeli legislators are saying to me is that hamas is going to want a different equation. it s going to want a different deal. at the moment it s getting three prisoners released, for instance, for every one israeli that s set free. if you re talking about much more higher value from their point of view individuals like israeli soldiers, they re going to want more than that. and so that is a process of negotiation that israelis say they re willing to enter into if there are more hostages being released. but you know, it still has to be agreed, and it hasn t been yet. matthew chance in tel aviv for us. thanks so much. even though the pause in fighting between israel and hamas has officially lasted for seven days, we are also seeing an upswing in tension and violence. hamas is taking credit for today s terrorist attack at a bus stop in jerusalem that left three innocent civilians dead and seven wounded, including some americans. cnn s ben wedeman is in jerusalem. the attackers, who were also killed afterwards, were brothers, ben. reporter: that s right. they were 38-year-old nurad nimr and his brother 38-year-old ibrahim. we ve seen video of the actual attack taking place. what you see is their car, which they drove from sur el bahr, which is an eastern suburb of jerusalem, drives up right in front of this bus station. the two get out and just start opening fire on people waiting for the bus. this was at rush hour in the morning. and you see they go back, they try to get back in their car after shooting people, and then it appears bystanders, one perhaps a soldier, one a civilian, draw their weapons and kill them on the spot. so three people dead, seven people injured. and in the aftermath of this prime minister benjamin netanyahu said yes, we should be giving more weapons to civilians and his words were echoed by national security minister itamar ben gvir, and this really underscores the level of tension even though at the moment, at the moment the guns have gone silent in gaza itself. and as far as the situation in gaza, as people watch the clock as the clock ticks down to 7:00 a.m. tomorrow, the hundreds of thousands of people who have been made homeless, who have been displaced, particularly from the north of gaza, are struggling to survive. there isn t much left to retrieve from the moonscape that was zahara city in central gaza. just some scraps of wood pulled from the ruins. the odds and ends that were once people s lives. we ve come to get what we can, says umjad deshanti. the kids clothing, whatever we can get from under the rubble. this, his daughter s toy. no one can live here anymore. the destruction total. life in gaza has been reduced to the basics. a preindustrial existence where people have become hewers of wood where they can find it. and drawers of water even if that water is barely potable. basm el atr goes out early every day to collect the firewood his wife uses to prepare meals. the united nations estimates around 80% of gaza s population has been displaced. more than a million jammed into schools converted into shelters. people here are living on top of one another, says besm. the place is full of filth. all these kids are going to get sick. the world health organization reports that without adequate hygiene, health care and food disease is spreading. besm s wife, hitam, tears up the daily bread, old and stale, to be made into a thin soup with lentils. we used to feed this to the sheep. now we give it to the children, she says. there s no more room at this school in mugazi in central gaza. mshedi and her extended family of 20 sleep in the back of a truck protected from the elements by a plastic tarp. she fled from northern gaza with only what she could carry. desperate now to find enough food to feed her children. when my son tells me i m hungry, what can i say, she asks. we try but we can t find anything. our life is hard. hard perhaps is an understatement. welcome to the apocalypse. now. ben wedeman, cnn, jerusalem. our thanks to ben wedeman for that report. the twisted minds of the terrorists of hamas today released a brief hostage video of a man named yarden bibas. bibas is of course the father of the very youngest hostage, 10-month-old kfir, as well as his brother, 4-year-old ariel. hamas has claimed without producing any evidence as of yet that those two boys as well as their mother, who were all taken hostage back on october 7th, that they were all killed by an israeli airstrike on gaza. we do not know that to be true. we do not know that they re dead even. here is an image from the hostage video released today. we re not going to show the video, of course. it s pure hamas propaganda. it does show the father, bibas, pleading with israeli officials to bring him and his family home as soon as possible. he was kidnapped on october 7th. he has been held separate from his family since then. the last time i spoke with yael engel ichi her nephew oafer was being held hostage by hamas after visiting his girlfriend at kibbutz be eri. he since marked his 18th birthday in captivity. after more than 50 days being held in hamas you re seeing some of the very first videos taken of ofer being reunited with his parents. his aunt yael joins me now. thank you for being here. i don t get a lot of opportunities to do good news since october 7th. so this is a niels respite. i m grateful to be able to show these pictures of your family back together. now, understanding that after more than 50 days of being in captivity expectations have to be tempered, how s he doing? hi. thank you for having me again. i saw him today for the first time after we saw him last night around 12:00 p.m. a.m. at night. midnight. they just came into israel. it was so exciting. i can t i can t imagine and i can t i didn t know you can feel all those feelings together. at the same time in such a so we went to visit him today, and i was really frightened to see him because you know, after 54 days we saw him yesterday on tv, he looked a little bit pale and much more thinner. but he s alive and he s walking on his feet. and when i saw his mother and father hug him i knew the hard part was over and we start a new episode of recovering and healing and hugging him. it was not easy to see him. i think it s i look in his eyes as i told you before, last time, he has such big green eyes, and sorry. it was not the same. it was not the same. he looks good. he was smiling at us. we hugged him. but we saw he had been through something very, very hard. yeah. and he told us things from there. and but he s alive and he s back home. not home yet. in the hospital. i mean, how he looks obviously you know this. but how he looks today is not how he s going to look in a month, right? i mean, emily hand, that little girl, that irish israeli girl, you know, her eyes, she has that thousand-yard stare, but how she looks today isn t going to be how she looks in a month. necessarily. we can always hope that, you know, he ll get better. has he shared any details about his experience? yes. actually, he really remembers every i think every hour of this 54 days. we have been there i have been there only for a short while because we need to give him space and they re doing a lot of tests to him. but as generally i can say that they did a lot of psychological terror on him. they kept telling him he won t come home, nobody cares about him. they kept telling him that everyone all his girlfriend s family was dead. that his government doesn t seems to take care of. and he was held in i think an apartment. he was not underground. he was not alone. so i think he had a lot a lot of luck. you know, it s funny to say. but he had luck being with some other hostages. but it were 45 days and i asked him how did you count the days? how did you know what day it is? because he didn t have the chance to see television or radio or nothing. and he told me every day he bited another finger so as the days went through he knows that his nails, not his fingers. so he knows how many days went over. and they were all kept in small room. they had very little food. but it s not what the physical terms. it was the psychologic terms. he looked so afraid. and i went there in the hospital and i saw some other children that just went out today and yesterday, and i thought to myself, it s not reasonable that the children, just innocent children were taken and kept there for 54 days. it s not normal. not normal. and we couldn t stop crying with him. it was i can t i can t explain. i don t have the words to explain how horrific it is, really. was he in the home was he in the home of a family? was he kept in the home of a family? i mean, did he say anything about who he was staying with? we just know he was staying with some people that guarded them all the time. they weren t allowed to go outside. they told him to whisper all the time because they told him that if you will talk loudly the israeli army will bomb this house and kill him. so my brother told me that this morning after he slept a few hours he wake up and he just didn t speak loudly. he just whispered. and he told him again and again it s okay, you can talk normally. you re back home. and then around 8:00 in the morning my brother sent us a picture of him sleeping in the bed and said all we wanted is to see our kid sleep again in a safe bed. yeah. i tell you, it s not normal. i heard the item before, and i m really sorry for all the people that lost their home there in gaza. but the world should understand that what happened here on october 7, i hear more and more stories of hostages going out. and what they did to other people and what they did to the women there, it s really it s really horrible. and there are some people that won t get over that. not in a month, not in a year. no, i know. i hope it s really it s not something children must go through. what hamas none of them. not here and what hamas and you know today go ahead. sorry. no, please. today terror attack that happened in jerusalem, the two hamas took responsibility of for the two terrorists made it, they just live 200 meters from us. is that right? my daughter asked myself, it s not only in gaza. how can i go by bus to school if i know there are terrorists near my house? and it must stop. all this situation must stop. the world should understand that the hamas, what they re doing, taking people like that. and i think i send you the movie that ofir meets his girlfriend yuval. and i was there when they met, and it was so painful because she was so happy to see him but she just came back from the memorial of their two nieces and aunt and her father still kept there. yeah. it s awful. what hamas did to so many people and in many ways is doing to their own people. yael engel lichi, thank you so much. please come back when ofir is ready to talk or at least come back and show pictures of him when the light is back in his eyes and his smile is back. because i know he s going to get better. and we re so happy that he s back and we re so happy that he s alive. yes, me too. thank you. thank you so much. coming up, the new report today about a tense call between donald trump and congressman kevin mccarthy. wait until you hear why trump reportedly did not want to help mccarthy fight to keep his seat as house speaker. plus the new attempts to keep political ads produced with ai-generated images off your tv screen. stay with us. new reporting from the washington post describes a tense phone call between former house speaker kevin mccarthy and donald trump in the days following mccarthy s ousting from the speakership. in the call trump explained why he did not stop mccarthy from being removed as speaker. the post reporting, during the call trump lambasted mccarthy for not expunging his two impeachments and not endorsing him in the 2024 presidential campaign, according to people familiar with the conversation. f you mccarthy claimed to have then told trump. although he didn t say f. you know. a spokesperson for mccarthy said he did not swear at the former president. and trump declined to comment. we should note of course that mccarthy and presumably his spokespeople are a little fast and loose with the truth on occasion. my panel s with me now. david urban, what do you make of this story? i find it shocking. i find it shocking. i find it pretty easy to believe. absolutely i find it believable. look, the former president is a score keeper as we all know. in his mind he s got a tally of who s done me right and who s done me wrong and the latter list is much longer than the former list, right? yeah. and he s not shy about keeping score and letting people know when he s unhappy with them. and very rarely is he does he throw there s not a lot of people he s thrown bones to, plaudits. so i could see that conversation occurring quite easily. and yet we got from liz cheney s book, audie, the fact that we remember kevin mccarthy threw donald trump that lifeline in january 2021 when it looked like the republican party was finally going to break with him after the insurrection and mccarthy went down to mar-a-lago, posed for that picture and then liz cheney had that famous conversation, now famous, from her book where she s like kevin, what the hell? and he said something along the lines of like he s depressed, he s not eating he told me he s not eating. he s so caring. still makes me laugh. of all the telenovelas in washington this is probably the least interesting to me. i would love to see the spanish version. honestly. but i do think like this is what happens when you have a transactional relationship and you aren t prepared to deal in a transactional way. one person in this party is like do what i need when i need it. the other person is like have you had a snack? also, can you help me now? it s just not understanding what is at stake. and i ve never seen political roadkill but it does feel like this might be what it looks like. you re calling kevin mccarthy political road kill? i just think what has he gained out of this year? urban, tell me. look, he s had a tough year. kevin mccarthy s had a tough year. in kevin mccarthy s defense he elected basically the entire house of representatives, right? and then they kind of conveniently forgot that he got them elected. a transaction no, that s my point. my point is he literally spent millions of dollars to help nancy mace and you know, eli crane to get across the finish line and get to be the majority and they were the first and they were the first to throw him und err why the bus. at the end of the day who was in charge? donald trump. i don t know if he couldn t govern yes, he s raise aid lot of money no, question about it and at the end of the day members care about that because it costs money to run for congress. of course. but you re only as influential and powerful as the role you have. he has been removed, in part because donald trump wouldn t throw him a lifeline. because shock, donald trump doesn t care clearly he didn t care a bunch because eli crane wouldn t be in congress and nancy mace wouldn t be in congress if it weren t for kevin mccarthy. but in terms of congressional stories, 2023, it s his, the story the rise and fall of this person. you guys remember mad libs from when you were kids? i was playing last night, actually. i m not kidding. last night. so anybody under 40 won t get this reference. do you remember mad libs? everyone under 60 you said? so in any case this is a news story from mad libs. just this hour tucker carlson announced on the roseanne barr podcast that he is endorsing trump for president. thoughts? yeah, shocking again. huge shocking news. and i m shocked that elon musk doesn t come out and endorse trump. come on. he s like he s like i m voting for biden but i m not going to tell you who i m voting for. by the way, did you see elon musk at the interview with yes. the new york times deal summit? with andrew ross sorkin. which was a great interview. sorkin did a great job. especially since he called him jonathan at one point. i m only here because you re my friend, jonathan. did you see that? you re my friend jonathan. and then elon went on to tell disney to f off. don t blackmail him. and not to advertise on his platform anymore. which is an interesting tactic for a ceo to tell advertisers to f off. and then the argument was what do you you re going to destroy your platform yep. and musk basically said, well, the platform will be destroyed but the world will know it was disney that did it. the world will know. i mean, he s always used this argument about free speech. and again, it s one of those fundamental misunderstandings about free speech. in the constitution it protects you from government overreach. when you re it s a private company. a business and your business relies on tuesdaying, they have the right to walk away. fortunately he s got like 100-plus billion dollars he can burn for a while. but there s also an argument he essentially wanted to tear the place down since he got there. he tried backing out of the deal because he realized it wasn t going to be profitable in the way he wanted or he wasn t going to be able to exert the influence he wanted with the board and the advertisers. so it s sort of hard to think that he had a legitimate business plan from the start. i think he wanted to influence discourse in the public square. that s what he cares about. so he tells new york times deal book that disney can f off. that s satisfying to him. i think people cheered for that. i thi
major develop moons, congress passed a bill giving 14.3 billion in aid to israel, but joe biden threatened to veto it because it does not include money for a cause that is already defeated sadly in ukraine. israeli prime minister netanyahu today says that nothing is going to stop them from going into gaza and getting the job done and now gaza city is surrounded. we re seeing explosions across the night sky. a live report from the ground later in the show. but first, loving china, hating us, the focus of tonight s angle. preparations for the date are underway. what is he going to wear? how long will the conversations last? who is better at small talk? the president is looking forward to meeting with president xi. will not get details about this meeting that is going to happen this month in san francisco. it will be a constructive meeting. laura: constructive for whom, jp morgan, goldman sachs? not the american people. xi does not meet with foreign leaders unless he s prepared for something and he wants tariffs lifted. this is intense competition, we want to move forward with china, we understand that. intense competition means intense diplomacy, that is what the president will be doing and having a tough conversation. laura: we re all getting played here. those tariffs are coming off. we take national security action using economic tools, we do so in narrowly targeted ways and not smoking off growth in china. laura: i knew it, for china s menningless promise on climate change, biden prepared to reward them by dropping tariffs that were necessary and trump knew were necessary to offset china s rampant trade cheating. this is like handing a gun to a robber during a heist, it is insane. you are witnessing sabotaging of america by president biden, opening the border, the inflationary spending and now surrendering more u.s. manufacturing to china. if they don t bought and paid for at the white house, they re all sure acting like they are. all of them are making pilgrimage to beijing with gavin newsom winning the prize for most obseek wiace, that was last week, when he was not plowing into chinese kids, he was up against the ccp and infuriated executives back home. many are sitting there wondering whattin explains the democrats s love affair with china? the left hates america so much right now it is going to side with any idiology that is hostile to us, even if that ideology commits genocide and wants women to stay in subordinate position. this week president xi told the woman s congress we should actively foster new type of marriage and child-bearing culture adding goal of party officials to influence love, marriage, fertility and family. now how deliciously ironic is that, liberals support china and china supporting the patriarchy, you see how twisted up in not knots liberals have gotten. they blame republicans anti-democratic biden is up with the in history. that is the angle. explain whying democrats and liberals are so eager to compromise with despottic regime like china. many on the left actually prefer how the ccp rules through fear and repression, which is why they are undermining our system here at home. our next guest fled china during the cultural revolution and she believes america is threatened by the same marxist forces that propelled the takeover of her homeland. survivor of the revolution and miles america joins us. what is your warning tonight to the united states? the warning is a war has been waged to america and that is the culture revolution, a culture revolution that i experienced in china that destroyed china temperature is taking place here in america. laura: explain how the use of propaganda starting in the schools and then being promoted by government organs and government officials working on young minds especially. yes, that is indoctrination in school. i grew up in china and went through the government school indoctrination and we were taught the world is made of two kind of people. there are oppressors and the oppressed andern ms are familiar with this concept. oppressed are virtuous people and the oppressors are evil ones. decide who is who. if this is oppressor, resist it, do anything necessary to eradicate it. that is what happened during the culture revolution, when the guards turned against teachers, principals and parents because they are condemned as the enemy, the oppressors and this is same thing we see on the american streets right now, pro-hamas protesters and we see them on campus and we see the same thing, which astonishing that now people are targeting jewish students just because they are now categorized as the oppressors. same toxic ideology. laura: sorry to interrupt. i want to ask about how the government, the regime, has to separate parents from their children and turn a child against parent, social credit consist and this idea of tattling on your neighbors and informing on your neighbors. i remember the soviet union, i studied when it was still communist, that was a big deal. tell on your neighbor and you get something for it. we saw that in the blm riots, they were telling on parents and they were not anti-racist enough. that is what indoctrination do and turn every idiology based. if parents say something against the party, you report your parents. some parents end up being executed. the government encouraging people to report family members with extreme views and what is extreme view? that is determined by the government. what is acceptable, what is not? when people have hold view you don t like, they are enemies, extremists and that is what we see, this toxic ideology. laura: need to destroy tradition and history, that is all wrapped up in this with monuments, with books. they are banning books in school like huck finn and classic american books. that is culture revolution, you get rid of anything that is transitional, anything that is old. in china, that is the chinese civilianization to be replaceds and here the radical left is trying to get rid of the american funding, principles to replace with marxist ideology, simplified as dei. laura: i could talk to you for hours, i will have you on the podcast, thank you so much. to justify, biden and the gang say in addition to new pledges on climate change, china will enter nuclear control talks with the united states. remember, xi never does anything not in china s interest. tonight, according to the telegraph, the pentagon is believing people s liberation army is developing a new type of icbm,heavy missile that leaves earth s atmosphere and travels around the world at hunl velocity before reentering and descending toward the target at 20 times the sound. we are joined tonight by congressman mark green. congressman, great to see you. defense analysts say this weapon would be most useful in early-stage bombardment where china decides to take taiwan. is biden being played in these talks that are coming up? absolutely, laura. thanks for having me on the show. this guy negotiated $6 billion deal for five folks to come home to regime that had been planning an attack on israel for years. their ability is suspect. withdrawal from afghanistan, stair-step sanctions, guys shouldn t negotiate a lemonade stand and they take away tariffs so effective and hurting the economy of china, which when you think about it, that is where national power comes from. ability to buy tanks and ships, hyper sonic missiles come from the health of your economy. he s done a good job to destroy our own, too. laura: janet yellen was out today softening everyone up about this upcoming meeting. they have done all the work, made all the decisions. biden will roll in and it is formalities in december. here she was explaining what our relationship now is like with china. watch. we ve put forth a vision of the world grounded in values we share with allies and partners and in which there is also a healthy and stable economic relationship between the united states and china. laura: healthy economic relationship between china and the united states and we have 375 billion trade deficit that will only grow once those tariffs are off. that is right and $600 billion theft of intellectual property. the schizophrenia and way this administration deals with china is laughable. you have department of defense saying they are the greatest issue for the united states. you have these guys saying we re buddies now. 24,000 chinese come across the southern border and i chair committee on homeland security, 5000% increase. these people are putting their tentacles into our country. tiktoks, data mining for kids. laura: congressman, tiktoks, we did this last night on the angle, i will restate for people who missed it. they have the most well-funded, most sophisticated lobbyist operating on capitol hill. all bought and paid for by china. bitedance is controlled by china and pouring money into capitol hill so republicans don t kick up a fuss about tiktok. fact that is on our kids phone at all is outrage. might as well give your phone to the chinese. if you have a tiktok app, you just given away your personal information. great to see you. thank you. israel has gaza city surrounded as it prepared assault to root out hamas. why is the biden administration now talking about a pause? 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[ cheers ] yeah! woho! running up and down that field looks tough. it s a pitch. get way more into what you re into when you stream on the xfinity 10g network. goli, taste your goals. laura: israel is making advances in the war against hamas. e seen massive explosions erupt in gaza tonight. idf reported last few hours, 130 hamas terrorists have been thwarted. we g o to israel where lucas tomlinson is standing by. g lucas. lucas: laura, israel top general says his forces enter entered gaza city and managed to cut the palestinian territory in two. weof have seen flairs overhead,e are told to better see the er enemy.ai average number of airstrikes israeli forcescont continue mov in and out of the strip.he three different directions, one from the east and soldiers moving slowly clearing homes and buildings, in order to attack spider weapon of tunnels, they n don t want hamas fighters to pop up behind them and punishing airstrikes continue. they have destroyed 12,000 targets inside gaza. soldiers are dropping bombs in west bank, lebanon and syria, too. and for first time in history f-35 shot down a cruise missile earlier filed from yemen by proxy fighters. the missiles travel 1000 mile to reach israel. the israeli navy moved ships to the sea to better protects the southern flank. israel ssyst arrow air defense system imis shooting down a missile fired from yemen.ra iron dome intercepted rockets from. gaza. earlier we saw number of israeli f-15s orbiting overhead, no doubt waiting for tasking and targets to strike. laura. laura: thank you, stay safe, my. friend. calls foa r a ceasefire have no stopped and as i explained laste night,en doing that would give hamas green light to continue raping, murdering and beheading innocentwhy civilians. why is there so much support, it seems, on the streets for hamas and the palestinians who are supporting hamas. we sent a producer to a pro-palestine protest today and here is what we found.o do you view hamas as freedoma fighters? i dy o categorically, that i what a therey are, they are not terrorist organization. d do you think hamas is frm fighters 1234 of course. is all violent resistance justified? you cannot blame them for retaliation, hamas retaliation is 1% of what israel has been doing. . netanyahu is palestine ng free, no israel. palestine everything. palestine. laura: joining me now former deputyse assistant secretary unr trump and nfc under trump temperature is common refrain in protests or on college campusesw that what hamas did as barbarict and cruel and criminal it is, war crimes, it is justified. they are repeating the actual talking points of the top hamas leadership.ea yeah, i mean, i think that is obviously untrue. you can look at independence movement of past, irish, etcetera, that didn t participate in the barbarism of october 7. that is controversiable and co laura, yount are right, this is when w we e need to have israel back. israel i iss not asking for u.s. te troops or u.s. intervention, asking for political and financial support and military supply to be able to go in and restore deterrence. biden administration approach tn slow walking away from support just as the incursion is about to start in earnest is what israel doesn t need and how we shouldn t be treating an ally willing and able to take care of their own security. south korea and taiwan of the world, this is how we stand behind allies that are willing to go the mile in a very just cause. lauras: reuters is reporting tonight thnge leader of hezboll will speak for the first time since the attacks on october 7. whato yo do you suspect will co out of that freak? we know he will do save rattlingg. and see if he escalas further on the northern border. thern ace is an active conflict israel mis, rockets and missile being fired and israelis are retaliating and fear is iranians will l give the direction to li0 up the border with the 150 has.ts he important united states sends s message. iran is pulling the strings here. militias in iraq are attacking u.s.it forces and this is all iran. if we arbee in a nuclear deal wp iran, freeing up money for the islamic republic. we say don t, don t, don t ay escalate, what message is the ayatollah really getting? e laura: fox has not confirmed this, there are reports syrian president has agreed to provide hezbollah with russian-made missile defense system. that sounds troubling. yeah, it is troubling, yet no another piece of evidence of coordination happening in the region and beyond, including with ush radio, who had a hand in this china is ultimate bank s roll and ultimate arbitter. i don t think it is a ne coincidence xi and putin spoke n in beijing.el we are seeing greater coordination, north korea were saying they would help hamas. this is reality. essentially what is happening from a gio an political point of view, china i more than anyone and russia is trying to stretch us out and deplete us and make it. you can see the president in his oval office address, he did not mention china. wen are falling into the hands and your angle was on this point. i we are begging the chinese. this iy fos fantastic opportuni going forward to exploit their opportunity and we re not addressing in the way we need to. laura: we are abandoning our leverage that you need in a u situation like this, trump neve woulwod have done that. those were his tariffs. richard, we re hearing the white housd e equivocate and now the e drum beat for a ceasefire is growing on capitol hill.th dick dick durbin and others.ca there is political calculation,a bleeding support among young people and arab americans, is it not? absolutely, this is political. we saw jay street start lobbying capitol hillpi, calling for a humanitarian pause. suddenlyhite the white house is talking about a humanitarian pause, it is a code work, a euphemism for iran victory. wh they is it happening? the people you just sdrued, they have embedded themselves in the radical left for years, part of intersectionalism. we arebely pro-hamas on the far anond putting members on house,e congress, nsenate, white housee we need joe biden to stay strong with israel and we need all republicans to speak out and sa no, there will not be a pause, wewi will not let hamas win. laura: and do not tie israel to ukraine, that is ridiculous and can t happen. israel stands on its own. richaf you, thank you. there ar laura: there are disturbing developments and we ve talked about disturbing developments on the border, but a new one tonight. you won t believe it, but lieutenant chris oliveras will tell us and show us next. laura: attacks on border patrol agents, laura: tax on border patrol agent, individuals on terror watch list stopped, children just dropped over the border fence, illegals cuting and crawling under razor wire, now we have explosives. just a few weeks ago, an ied was discovered with ammo on the u.s. side of the border and courtesy of the thermal drone video, you see the action. black spots are cartel members in mexico throwing the explosives. joining me live from mcallen is lieutenant chris oviveras. what can you tell us what you know about the explosives and what could have been done with them were they not intercepted? right, laura. good evening, that is disturbing and shocking when you see images and when you know for a fact we are finding explosives left or yourself, border patrol recovered that explosive and the video you saw is an actual gun battle taking place across the river known as the island that we ve been able to occupy through commissioner don buckingham. we have authority to take control of this island and we are able to capture events taking place in mexico which is most violent area along the texas-mexico borderer. we are there 24/7 and capturing the gun battles right across the border. it is a volatile situation, we know the cartels have been operating in that specific area because they are fighting for drug smuggling routes and you have explosives in the mix that makes it more dangerous. the american people would not know what was taking place and how close the threats are to the border. laura: i want you to listen to the white house s response to questions about terrorists who have been able to infiltrate the u.s. through the southern border. watch this. f elevated threat crossed the southern border into the unit is it possible someone wants to across the border into the united states already? i couldn t answer that. we have remained vigilant. laura: okay, chris, your response to that? recovering make-shift explosives and can t say it is possible we re vulnerable to a devastating terror attack because of their purposeful effort to leave the border open. laura, we know for a fact there is elevated threat for the past three years because of unsecured border and fact the federal government shown neglect to support the border shows how irresponsible they are to
country? you just don t know because it s the influence of the chinese communist party is significant on companies like bitedance which owns tiktok. even if the executives say otherwise. you just don t know. that s one of the big issues we have to cover. people using tiktok thinks it is entertainment. he thinks it s just entertainment. it is becoming a news story and people are leaning on that instead of looking at the cnn app, for example. the you think it s a dangerous don t you have a burner phone for tiktok? yeah. i do. many years ago i wrote this. i said i have a burner phone. i love it. it s a great app. i watch it. it s like potato chips. it does is entertainment. i had a burner phone. everyone made fun of me. i was like, look, i don t want, you know, so obvious that chinese communist party controls companies in china. there is no u.s. companies allowed in china. there is not a reciprocal thing