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Continuing to hear noise down in that area, as the area pushes further and further out and police secure the scene. something else to keep in mine, it s a difficult travel day in boston in the boston area on marathon monday. a lot of the roads are shut down. can be tough to get from place to place, a big sports event happening. so it was tough to get around in general. that could be adding some challenges here for the police and fire department as they re responding. neil: we re get ago reports coming in from boston fire department officials who will be updating everybody in the next 15-20 minutes or so. the first explosion, plumb by the one at the westin hotel, might have been emanating from a third floor meeting room. not underground or not where trash can but the first one, where everything lights up, that was presumably from the westin hotel and the third floor meeting room there. there s simply no way to confirm ....