where this resolves is anybody s guess. part of where it resolves is in the united states senate where kyrsten sinema and joe manchin have to decide whether they will continue to stand with republicans to block republican legislatures all over the country from rescinding voting rights in the name of the big lie about mass voting fraud which motivated the effort to overthrow the election. part of where it s going to get resolved is potentially in courtrooms around the country, not just for the people who entered the capitol and comported themselves in more or less violent terms on january 6 but also in terms of whether or not the plotters of the attack will be brought to justice in the criminal justice system. it also may resolve in courtrooms around the country, federal courtrooms and state courtrooms, as people part of this plot end up facing the music in the other way, including the electors, the false electors, who signed on to
they were spreading it in official and unofficial ways. remember, our committee is not a criminal investigatory committee. our committee is an investigative committee for american people to figure out what happened to us and how did we get set up for a situation in which we almost lost our democracy. we know that this big lie was the humming engine behind the whole attack on the congress and on the peaceful transfer of power. we want to know the mechanisms by which this lie was told, who was involved in it and what ways can we fortify ourselves against lies when we know american citizens are allowed to lie in some context. you can t lie in court, which is why rudy giuliani s law license has been suspended. in new york and in the district of columbia, you know, a five-judge panel found unanimously in new york that he had been telling falsehoods. he had basically been committing a fraud against the court. you can t do that. we have to figure out what places like in courtrooms we can
complaining this is a partisan investigation and he has nothing to hide. can you tell us about the importance of the subpoenas from your perspective? well, let s see. lawyers first of all are not exempt from having to obey the law. neither are family members of presidents or former presidents. we don t have royal families here or former royal families that occupy any privileged constitutional position. everybody is subject to the law and congressional subpoenas and orders to turn over information. about a relevant investigation. would what could be more relevant than examining an attack on the democracy itself and figuring out how to prevent it in the future? what these four subpoenas have in common is that these four individuals were all apostles of big lie. they were spreading the big lie in public, they were spreading it in courtrooms.
democrats had to force into being the outgrowth of the january 6 attack on the u.s. capitol and the effort to overthrow the u.s. government, that that violent attack was the capstone for. it was an unnatural outgrowth because republicans did everything they could to stop there being a full-scale investigation of the matters, both the january 6 attack and the broader plot. we are now seeing the broader plot exposed by the january 6 investigation and by public reporting and by the states looking into this on their own terms. where this resolves is anybody s guess. part of where it resolves is in the united states senate where kyrsten sinema and joe manchin have to decide whether they will continue to stand with republicans to block republican legislatures all over the country from rescinding voting rights in the name of the big lie about mass voting fraud which motivated the effort to overthrow the election. part of where it s going to get resolved is potentially in courtrooms around the
and congressional subpoenas and orders to turn over information. about a relevant investigation. would what could be more relevant than figuring out how to prevent it in the future? what these four subpoenas have in common is that these four individuals were all apostles of big lie. they were spreading the big lie in public, they were spreading it in courtrooms. they were spreading it in official and unofficial ways. remember, our committee is not a criminal investigatory committee. our committee is an investigative committee for american people to figure out what happened to us and how did we get set up for a situation in which we almost lost our democracy. we know that this big lie was the humming engine behind the whole attack on the congress and on the peaceful transfer of power. we want to know the mechanisms by which this lie was told, who was involved in it and what ways