husband said i love you, kim. a lot of emotions running throughout this case. i want to bring in attorney brian claypool. what do you make of this verdict and the response we re seeing so far? gillian, thanks for having me back. we talked yesterday about this. i commented to you that that question by the jury about wanting to handle that gun, i thought that they favored the prosecution. why? ted williams mentioned this as well. it s difficult for a judge to grasp how kim potter would not know the difference between a taser and a gun. the taser weighs 50% less than a gun. that was a big game changer yesterday. at the end of the day, it s not surprised by the guilty verdict on the second degree manslaughter. a little surprised by the guilty on the first degree