differential if there was one for a second increment of power purchase and have that be a source of funds for second increment if it turned out to be more expensive. [multiple voices] i don t know if that s consistent with what the board ordinance says. but if there is room for that, i think it would be interesting to pursue it. it does sound interesting. it may require another action, though. the language and the resolution from the board indicated that we should recover it, but it didn t indicate the time frame. so, there was sort of an expression of moving towards recovering those rates recovering the costs from that customer group. i think you and i are concerned about the time frame. well, yes. if it is in fact flexible, if you built in that increment in the rates and the intent would be that if the price stayed the same, you would start the repayment of the reserves. if it didn t, then you would simply postpone the repayment of reserves until the next time
embedded in that conversation will be a conversation about how do we how are we actually engaging with customers or potential customers. opt out how proactive are we being and with which customer groups, and how more responsive mode we re in with customer groups. because there will be an element, i think, given the size of the program that we re envisioning. there will be an element of us actively engaging with customers, but there will also be customers who will call us up. in fact, we ve already had some potential customers call us already expressing an interest in participating in the program. so, we need to be ready to address sort of both levels of customer interest and that will help us shape our pre-enrollment and our statutory opt out portions of our roll out of our plan. i wonder if i may also respond to something you said, commissioner moran, about the solicitation and outreach. and that you were imagining we would need to make a determination as to the size of
help us shape our pre-enrollment and our statutory opt out portions of our roll out of our plan. i wonder if i may also respond to something you said, commissioner moran, about the solicitation and outreach. and that you were imagining we would need to make a determination as to the size of the program before, if i heard you correctly, before solicitation and outreach. and i just wanted to say that from our perspective, part of the shaping of the program and the size of the program will be in response to some of the outreach we perform. so, you know, as those prior surveys informed us, we expect that we will need to be talking with potential customers to understand if they re still as interested in the program as they were at the prices we expressed when we last talked to them. now that the board has told us to incorporate the security costs into the rates, now that we re incorporating 20% discount for low-income customers and recovery of those costs from other customers, the
on item g and actually let me go at it one at a time. item g, i would hope there would be a report back on what is found with the additional testing in san bruno and how that relates to the groundwater storage project on the west side. a point, mr. richy, is that the usually course of business? [inaudible]. okay. thank you. and on item j, the extension of the joint powers agreement with bayshore, i understand the need for that because it appears that negotiations are ongoing. it would have been better, in my opinion, had that come before the commission before the expiration of the agreement at the end of september. so, if that were possible in the future, i just would prefer not to see retroactive actions like that. and finally, on item k, on the appointment to the sjta, which i did not even know existed, for bodies like that and other bodies on which members of staff or the commission served, it would be nice to get some periodic report as to what is happening, par
megawatts, 30 megawatts. that will be one of the data points to help inform that decision. so, some of the outreach will need to occur before we answer that question thoughtfully for you, i think. and make a recommendation to you, i should say. well, no, thank you. and i guess i had jumped the gun a little bit in assuming you would want to know ahead of time. in party assume some of the pricing influence, construct you would be serving people with. yes. but it does get into somewhat circular. yes. the other thing that does occur to me on that, if we went out with a smaller program and if it turned out that the response was just fabulous, and we had an opportunity to do more than we originally thought, the potential problem we have there is that if we have to go back to shelf for a second increment of power, there is no guarantee the second increment will be at the same price as the first increment. it does not promise the price will be more or less. correct. one