This event was taped in 2014 at a bookstore in asheville, north carolina. Ts about an hour. Denise i am thrilled to be here with karen abbott. I love her book. Love all her books. You show us this entire other view of chicago through the eyes of the two most famous american madams ever. In american rose, we learned about an American Icon who hasnt been explored the way you explored her. Now with liar, temptress, soldier, spy, you hit on several things i adore. Unexplored American History, espionage, and women with real spines, adventurous incredible women. Tell us about what this book is about. Karen i will tell you the origins. I was born and raised in philadelphia and moved to atlanta in 2001. I noticed immediately that the civil war seeps in the conversation in the south in a way it never does in the north. I saw the occasional confederate flag, heard the jokes of the war of northern aggression. The point was really driven [laughter] good point. And the point was driven home that it