Richard engel talks about the first phase of this war now being complete. the targeted strikes on military assets. the second phase is going to be government facilities and the people who live around government facilities are these civilians. and so what you have is this never ending cycle where there is really no redeeming quality to war. where people are brought up now in a society where there could be a russian occupation. and that is going to have long-lasting effects. and what we re going to see is human traffic moving in various directions. people trying to get out and doing anything they can to get out. if this turns into what president biden talked about, which is a prolonged occupation, it s going to be horrifying. there will be bombings and violence and caught in the middle will be children and elderly and civilians. cal perry, you ve already seen a lot and it s awful. just the expectation of what is likely to come. cal, thank you very much. joining me now jim townsend form
That as proof that they had actually done the right thing at the time. it s clear, erin they didn t do the right thing at the time then. and he is now saying that they would have no reason to rebuff the russians because getting dirt from the russianens there is nothing wrong with that in the president s view. that s stunning because i think also erin a lot of republicans disagree with that. that question asked to christopher wray asked by a republican lawmaker. it s clear that there is not unanimity on this issue even on the president s side of the political spectrum which makes in all the more stunning for a president of the united states to say in the oval office, no less. i mean, incredibly stunning. of course remember the emails were explicit, right. it was russian government. the woman hosted ended up at the meetings is admitted informant for the kremlin thank you abbey. ill i want to phillip lack vera. juliette kayyem assist secretary as the department of homeland security an
Referencing with that? no, i don t. well there was a long pause there. and perhaps that s because barr did know the special counsel s team did know that they had note adequately reported feending because he had a letter saying that barr s did not fully capture the substance, and nature and the the work and conclusions. outfront now to kari cord re. jack weiss. former assist secretary for the department of homeland security under president obama, juliette kayyem, and former adviser to four u.s. presidents david gergen. jack you re here with me. let me start with you. we laid out the testimony of the pause, the answer which obviously runs counter to the letter we know he had already received. is it laughable to say bar lied under oath. when you was assist u.s. attorney if i had gone into federal court with his special mixture of 907% misleading and 10% literal truth, regardless