you move d to intercept. he attacked him. i m not talking about mr. arbery attacking travel. all right. here s the concept of excessive force, and this is a big one, because here s the thing if you use excessive force during your self-defense, guess what? you re not just fied, you re guilty. not justified. you re guilty if you use excessive force. because it s force that exceeded kwhafls reasonably necessary. you guys ever heard the term, that saying, can t bring a gun to a knife fight? it s unfair, right? can t bring a gun to a fistfight. it s unfair, right? you can t use excessive force. you can t call someone out and go, hey, buddy, let s take it outside, you re starting it, then when that person starts to beat you up and is better at the fight than you, you don t get to