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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20211004 06:43:00

do that to him what are they going to do to me if i don t follow what they say. patricia says behind besides being naive, she was also extremely vulnerable. she described herself as haunted, a victim of an alleged rape in college and sexual abuse is a child. she questioned her own judgment and wondered how she could ve ever dated giuliani in the first place. after all, he was accused of a horrendous murder, one that included for touring the victim. i didn t know that people were capable of that. of course, you read things in the newspaper, you see things on tv, but you never think it s going to cross your path. you never think that you are actually going to be friend a person that s capable of doing that. why not just go to the police and tell them everything? i wish they had told me we will protect you, we will protect you if you come forward. i wish they had told me that. i didn t know. i didn t know that they were

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20211004 07:52:00

psychology professor charged with murder, she turned down a plea deal it was no longer cooperating with the orange county district attorney s office. patricia flip the crime on its head, by calling herself the victim. that she had to witness this brutality, do you think that s a fair assessment? i definitely think it s a fair suspend, because patricia would be the first to say that she would never want anyone to think that this was done in her name. but that s exactly what the prosecutor believed. in his mind patricia initiated the murder, helps planets, that obstructed the investigation by marrying the prime suspect, so she would not have to testify against him. prosecutor believe patricia lied repeatedly for 20 years. right up to the time of her arrest in 2012. remember, she told, us she was on her way to the u.s. for a conference. i was coming to the u.s. for professional travel. it turns out, says the

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20211004 07:54:00

prosecutor, it s possible the biggest lie of all was the reason for the murder in the first place. that patricia had been raped. she claims that she told the nurse from the clinic, at the college, that she was raped. but there is no record that she did. according to the medical records, patricia was examined by both the doctor and a nurse that day, but the notes from the visit only said patricia had unprotected sex, and wanted a morning after pill. no mention of a rape. we contacted the college about her visit to the clinic, they told us, that given the two decades and personnel changes since patricia was treated, they had no further information. what was your gut telling you, about the rate? did you believe that patricia was raped? anybody who sexually assaulted, it s a horrific experience. i can only imagine, i don t know, there just isn t enough evidence. it s inconclusive.

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20211004 06:07:00

i tell him no, i m not interested. he starts to get aggressive and starts to try to kiss me. i push him away. we re struggling and then ultimately, he takes off my pants and he forces himself on me. when he s finished, i just turn away from him and i half naked and i curled up into a ball in the started sobbing. when he gets to the door, he tells me, you have a lot of problems and he walks away. patricia says she was raped. unlike many victims, she felt somehow it was her fault. oh god, i felt so dirty. so ashamed. i was just blaming myself, i thought like why did this why

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20211004 06:59:00

that patricia was involved. the past patricia thought she d escape, is about to come charging back. i wanted patricia esparza to know that we knew she had lied. i wanted to see why she did that. when dateline continues. continues now, we all know progressive offers 24/7 protection, but we also bundle outdoor vehicles with home and auto to help people save more! [ laughs ] [ humming ] [ door creaks ] oh. [ soft music playing ] what are you all doing in my daydream? it s better than that presentation. a lot better. you know, whether it s a fraction or a decimal, it s still fun, you know?

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