might happen if he is president again, that is a threat of what will happen now and try to hold him to account even if he is never going to hold office again. joining us is former republican strategist steve schmidt. thanks very much for being with us. i appreciate you being here. good to be with you, rachel. let me ask you about these comments from the president. we ve got a statement from him saying i wanted mike pence to overturn the election. we ve got him saying if i m elected president again or returned to the presidency, i will pardon the january 6th defendants. and he s saying in so many ways if i m indicted i want you all in the streets and i want you in the streets of the various places where i m considered in potential criminal trials. is this just trump, is this the same nonsense that we have heard from trump, is this a different level of threat to the country? well, i think that we have to look at this in the context of his apologias for people who