Again, that wasnt the perceived goal here. That was the perception among his supporters that think its gone too far. Lets get more from Griff Jenkins. Thats right, neil. Fox news confirmed that former President Trump is indeed in the courtroom right now. He entered at about 3 52 p. M. So just under ten minutes ago. Hes wearing a blue suit, a red to you. Flanked by his two attorneys. Fox has confirmed that we expect him to plead not guilty to the four felony charges hes facing in this indictment. Three are conspiracy charges, one is obstruction. Before he entered that courtroom, a little less than an hour ago, his motorcade entered the garage here at the federal courthouse. He was processed and fingerprinted. Theres no mug shot taken because the court says theres plenty of pictures of him to provide. Hes not arrested. But he is obviously being processed. Now we wait for this Court Proceeding to get underway at the time of our note from our producer, jay gibson inside, the Magistrate Jud
He faces, the years in jail if he s convicted. all of these things are real. but there is an appeals process here that we should also put in the mix that eventually, potentially, ends up in the supreme court. neil: wild stuff. to david spunt now. he was in the courtroom when this was going on. he joins us now. david, what was it like in there? well, neil, it s over right now. it lasted probably about 20 minutes or so. former president trump walked in, waited for about 20 minutes for the magistrates judge. she s not going to be the judge running the show for the trial and the next couple hearings. he waited 20 minutes or so for the magistrate judge. he entered a plea of not guilty. he stood up himself after he was sworn in. he was very stoic throughout most of the time he was there, talking to his attorney,ed to blanche a few times. also seeded at the table was john loro, his attorney in this
Get this case to the d.c. circuit and up to the supreme court prior to trial. one of the things that is among the four counts here, john yoo, is this obstruction of official proceeding and obstruction or conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding. that again is linking donald trump to that and he was the cause and then the effect. that s a tough thing to prove. i think we re having problems with your mic, john. maybe it s better now. i apologize. we re going to try to fix that. if i can go back to you on that it s a stretch to get some of these to stick. what do you think, andy? well, i think it s going to be a stretch. i m not sure they re crimes. if it s right if fraud has to be financial, there s no financial
The whole trial. one of the interesting questions despite the historic significance, is president trump going to show up for every day and every minute of the proceedings? he has the right to do so. we want the jury to see him. we have the belief in hour system that when you put witnesses up on the trial, they should be confronted by the defendant so we can tell who is lying and who is not. president trump has to conduct a re-election campaign. will he be there every day? he will be at caucuses and primaries. that underscores the unprecedented nature of this case. the last thing i m going to add, even though this is the most important criminal trial in our history, even though the stakes are so high. i d like the justice department to have a watertight case on the facts and the law. what you ll see in this courtroom and what donald trump will see as a defendant is a prosecution that has to really press imaginative, unprecedented
Tough on those who were involved on the storming of the capitol on january 6 and kneading out sentences that won t beyond prosecutors were asking. will she be tougher on the guy they were answering to? could be. as jessica tarlov pointed out, the take was that in florida he has a judge that might be more favorable to him because he appointed her. in this case, it might be the perception at least, might be that it could go in a different direction. when it comes to change of venue issues or the pace of this trial, she s known for having a speedy pace with these other january 6th situations. so she play be cut to the chase kind of judge on this. it s interesting. she s not there today. it was a magistrate that handled this case. we have more color from jake gibson about what it s like in there according to him, our producer on the ground. he says the president was stoic when he entered the room.