talk to me about these issues these are serious documents if you are investigating the january 6th insurrection and what connections the white house had to it, if any. these are very important documents to congress. the national archives is supposed to turn them over on friday, the day after tomorrow. trump s lawyers vowed not only to appeal but to get a stay of this ruling. so what i expect we will see is a request to the judge who issued this, for her to issue a stay for her own ruling. i think that s probably unlikely since she made the ruling. but they will immediately then go to the united states court of appeals for the d.c. circuit, a three-judge panel, a very politically polarized court where, depending on which three judges he gets, may depend that may determine the outcome by just by knowing who is on the bench. we should know by friday if they are going to get the documents or not. if there is a stay, it could be months. jeffrey, the legal question at play