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Transcripts for MSNBC The Mehdi Hasan Show 20220117 01:06:00

by 2030 if not sooner the country could be governed by a right wing dictatorship. author thomas dixon says i am a scholar of violent conflict for more than 40 years i ve studied and published on the causes of war, social breakdown, revolution, ethnic violence, and genocide. today as i watch the unfolding crisis in the united states i see a political and social landscape flashing with warning signals. so i ask you, exactly how many sirens and red lights flashing is it going to take to wake this country up? who better to ask than thomas dixon himself the author of that sobering, chilling op-ed. he is executive director of the cascade institute at royal road university. his latest book is commanding hope, the power we have to renew a world in peril. thomas homer-dixon so nice to have you with us this evening. you are a serious scholar of this stuff. you re not some op-ed columnist pushing out hot takes or trying to get social media clicks. so how serious are you about the idea of americ

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Mehdi Hasan Show 20220117 04:07:00

of that sobering, chilling op-ed. he is executive director of the cascade institute at royal road university. his latest book is commanding hope, the power we have to renew a world in peril. thomas homer-dixon so nice to have you with us this evening. you are a serious scholar of this stuff. you re not some op-ed columnist pushing out hot takes or trying to get social media clicks. so how serious are you about the idea of america being run by a right wing dictator by the end of this decade? a lot of our viewers at home will be taken aback by that. i think we are talking about several different phenomena here, different things that could happen. the one you have been really talking about, discussing over the last few minutes is the collapse of american democracy, a fatal weakening of democratic institutions that would probably be occasioned by the reelection of donald trump as president. now, somewhat further down the road, if trump and his successors are able to consolidate power,

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