ballots, which were going to be more prevalent because of the pandemic, became a perfect new foil for trump s old claim. voting by mail is wrought with fraud and abuse. when you do all mail-in voting ballots, you re asking for fraud. reporter: alyssa fer ra was the white house communications director for then-president trump from april through december 2020. we actually had to pull together a meeting in the oval to remind him that many of our voters, particularly senior citizens, were going to vote by mail, and that we were deterring people from turning out and from voting in the way that they would. all this caught the attention of congresswoman liz cheney, a conservative and daughter of former vice president dick cheney. at the time she was number three, the conference chair. it concerned me because we wanted people to be able to vote as republicans. i wasn t concerned about it from a constitutional perspective at
i think it was facebook. he also admitted that he did not have the time, he said, to investigate the claims himself. alyssa fer ra was the courthouse communications director when all these lies were being fed to then-president trump. you are saying in november, that there seemed to be an acknowledgment by the president that he lost, but then something changed. something did change. this was when the more conspiracy theorists got access to the president. the sidney powells, the mike lindells, michael flynns and even steve bannon was in his ear. it did take a turn. i think herb believes it. the former president believes he won the election. and that s scary. and the other thing though that your viewers need to know, the people around the president, the sane ones know that he did not win. and they are lying to you, and they are lying to him when they