[laughter] gillian: howie, one of the perks that come along with a decades-long career like hers is a whole lot of awards. she had daytime emmis, i think she had a tony award, all kindst awards, a grammy award. a lot of hollywood celebrities like to sort of pooh-pooh that. i use my words as toilet paper holders. [laughs] gillian: she was everyone of those. she always expressed such delight in appreciation and talked about every time she got an award how much joy it brought her. very refreshing. and a star on the hollywood walk of same. she just brought such enthusiasm to everything that she did. that scene you played was really funny. she aged so well. so many people in hollywood, whether they are that age or some other age, they are often the subject of all kinds of terrible gossip.